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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 June 24 21:45 BST (UK) »
There is a son to Mary showing on the 1911 census, Samuel born in the 1870s.

I think this is his birth registration. Mother Mary is showing here with the maiden surname of Braddly (Bradley, and other variants). See https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02981/2092052.pdf

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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 June 24 23:10 BST (UK) »
Samuel's birth posted above-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02981/2092052.pdf
Just to note that the informant, Mary Law, was a local midwife. There were Conleys in Glenleary  townland at least as far back as 1832 when Peggy Conolly, daughter of Joseph and Martha of Glenleary, was baptised on the 19th September in Macosquin Presbyterian Church (also known locally as Englishtown).
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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 June 24 23:16 BST (UK) »
Has this been posted yet?
Martha Jane Conley, parents John and Mary (Braddly), born at Glenleary-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02981/2092052.pdf
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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 June 24 23:23 BST (UK) »
John Connelly age 35 died at Glenleary-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06395/4836600.pdf
Mary Conley is listed in 1901 census as married 10 years, so perhaps married c1872?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Knockantern/Spittle_Hill/590489/

Sure enough, married 1872 at Coleraine Registry Office. His residence Glenleary and hers Bushtown. Both 'full age' which may or may not be accurate-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11305/8147752.pdf
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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 08:21 BST (UK) »
Going through my files and online sources and have found lots more information and some of it might be quite a surprise. Still typing it up and will post later.

I see also the problem with the link on www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ to a possible 1912 marriage for Martha to James Spence. Has anyone reported it on the site?
Not sure what the problem mentioned is but I was able to bring up the marriage without any bother-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09918/5605139.pdf
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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 10:58 BST (UK) »
There certainly was a problem up to yesterday with that link taking you to another couple's marriage.

I did report the problem yesterday on site. Blown away if it has been corrected that quickly!

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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 11:00 BST (UK) »
Really pleased you came across this thread, aghadowey! Thought you would be a big help on it  ;)

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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 22:44 BST (UK) »
There certainly was a problem up to yesterday with that link taking you to another couple's marriage.
I did report the problem yesterday on site. Blown away if it has been corrected that quickly!
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Wonder if it was the way we searched? I used James Spence and the year to find it since so many possible spellings of Conley. I would be very shocked if they fixed anything that quickly as I've been reporting problems there for years and still find they haven't fixed transcriptions or links.

First of all, I'm pretty sure I found the online tree OP mentioned and can;t see how on earth it was put together. In many cases the sources are clearly given yet the details are ignored and wrong information is put instead.
One example is the birth of Martha Jane Conley. Tree says she was born at Glenleary on 30 May 1874 (correct) "Daughter of John Conley and Mary Elizabeth (MacAlister) Conley" when her birth registration clearly show her parents as John Conley & Mary Braddly [Bradley]
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Conley-426
The information listed for her father John Conley is just as bizarre. Says he was before 25 Feb.1827 and died 17 July 1882. This would make him about 55 when he was born. However, the death registration clearly says he was 35 years old (born c1847). Unfortunately there is a gap 1840s/1850s in baptismal register for Macosquin Presbyterian Church.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Conley-422
There seems, for some strange reason to be uncertainty for Mary Brandley's maiden name with it being listed as McAllister (even though the marriage registration and children's births call her Bradley). It possibly stems from certificate for marriage of John Connelly & Sarah Jane Elliott- his parents John Connelly & Mary Bradley and her parents John Elliott & Mary McAllister.
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Re: Mary Connolly and John Connolly (both servants) Coleraine
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 23:19 BST (UK) »
Not sure how many posts this will be broken up into and it's late here so to start with-

John Conley (c1847-17 July 1882 Glenleary) m.(1872 Coleraine Registry Office) Mary Bradley (c1847-21 Mar.1920 Spittal Hill, Coleraine).
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11305/8147752.pdf
I thought that Mary was likely Catholic and the Conleys were Presbyterian so that might be one reason for a registry office wedding. However, although the ceremony was performed by the Deputy registrar, Rev. James Patrick also attended which is interesting because Rev. Patrick was, at that time, minister of Dromore O.S. Presbyterian Church. Dromore, which was recently sold, is just along the road from Macosquin Presbyterian but the two belonged to different Synods and it's unlike the minister of Dromore would have been involved unless one or both of the parties belonged to his congregation.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1882/06395/4836600.pdf
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Somerset/Glenleary/1516907/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Knockantern/Spittle_Hill/590489/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1920/05133/4413592.pdf

Children of John & Mary (more details on each later)-
1. Thomas Conley (31 July 1872 Bushtown)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03240/2186998.pdf
2. Martha Jane Conley (30 May 1874 Glenleary)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03153/2156349.pdf
3. John Conley (c1875)
4. Samuel “Sam” Conley (25 Feb.1878 Glenleary)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02981/2092052.pdf
5. Jane “Jeannie” Conley (c1879? Co.Derry)
6. James Conley (24 June 1880 Glenleary)
ttps://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02866/2049872.pdf
Up to now everything is fairly straightforward and 6 children agrees with what Mary filled out in 1911 census.
John Conley died in 1882 leaving Mary with a young family. Then Mary has two more children-
7. Catherine Conley (8 July 1885 Glenleary)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1885/02639/1972930.pdf
8. Alfred Lawrence Conley (11 May 1892 Park, Bushmills, Co.Antrim)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02351/1878699.pdf

Note: I'm sticking to Conley as the spelling of the surname although various others were used at different times.
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