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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24 June 24 18:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much I have been having trouble with this.

Who is the Sarah Fortt that died in 1804?

Could she be a daughter of James (b1792)?
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in
Somerset, England, Marriage Registers, Bonds and Allegations, 1754-1914
page 189

I found

Name   James Fortt   
Marriage   27 Mar 1825 Bath, St Michael, Somerset, England   
Spouse   Margarita Blackmore

I think this is the James Fortt (b1792)
other than the right church though I am not sure it is the right James Fortt?

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 June 24 02:54 BST (UK) »
Sarah could be another daughter, although I haven't found a baptism to date.

There is a Thomas Fort/Ford and Ann also having children at the same time- more research needed
if the name was Fortt or Ford or if sometimes interchangeable.
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Joseph Fortt married Amelia Cutland 16 July 1806 so Sarah did not belong to them

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 00:49 BST (UK) »
where I went screwy last time was with

Charles Henry Fortt
son of Thomas Fortt and Eliza Tucker

last time I tried to make movement on this I ended up with a different Charles Fortt that moved to Wales. I found that this was totally the wrong person of the same name. I ended up erasing even Thomas and Eliza when try to correct it.

to recap what I have in my tree

The right Charles Fortt that married Elizabeth Bethell
Marriages Dec 1863   Fortt    Charles Henry   in Bath    5c   1236
as far as I can find they three Children one of which died young.


1. Jane Eliza Fortt (Eliza) who I have fallowed down two more generations to living people

2.James Charles Fortt
BIRTH MAR 1864 • Walcot, Bath, Avon, Somerset, England
DEATH SEP 1864 • Walcot, Bath, Avon, Somerset, England
(I found the records in the GRO)

3. James Charles Fortt (same name as brother that died young)
FORTT, JAMES CHARLES mother BETHELL GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in BATH Volume 05C Page 708
I found his baptism which had a transcription error of Fartt rather than Fortt
after that I can't find anything on him

I have looked for a death and marriage record but got nothing that stands out as him. So, if anyone can find out what happened to him that would be great.



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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 01:03 BST (UK) »
So in 1871 Charles is a widower with just his daughter Eliza living with the Bethell grandfather And Elizabeth’s death in 1869.

I would be suspicious of this death

Deaths Sep 1870   
FORD    James    3    Bath    5c   448


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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 16:08 BST (UK) »
So in 1871 Charles is a widower with just his daughter Eliza living with the Bethell grandfather And Elizabeth’s death in 1869.

I would be suspicious of this death

Deaths Sep 1870   
FORD    James    3    Bath    5c   448


I had to clear a bunch of hints from the Charles Fortt in Wales and look through the 1871 census to find the right Charles Fortt census.

Since the 2nd James Charles Fortt born 1867 is not with his father and sister in 1871, I assume he has died although he could be elsewhere. 

That James Ford death is possible to be James Fortt B1867

I have two James Fords born in somerset that it could of been yet I found their death records and isn't the one from bath

Births Dec 1866   
Ford    James E        Keynsham    5c   679    (mother SHEPPARD)
died
Deaths Mar 1867   
Ford    James    0    Keynsham    5c   556

Births Mar 1867   
FORD    James        Keynsham    5c   743 (mother PILLINGER )
died
Deaths Jun 1868 
FORD    James Everett    1    Keynsham    5c   433
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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 17:50 BST (UK) »
So, I am trying to find a death date for this Charles Fortt. I think i have him in a 1901 census so likely after that. unless I made an error

I am also missing the 1881 census for Charles and his daughter Jane Eliza Fortt.
Jane was married in 1883 to Frank Bull had two kids and died 31 DEC 1884 • Lyncombe & Widcombe, Bath, Avon, Somerset, England

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 22:01 BST (UK) »
I might have Charles on 1881

He's boarding with a Sarah Tucker in Bradford on Avon in 1901 (a relative?)

Back in 1881 she and husband David have a number of lodgers including a Charles Ford aged 40, a widower b Bath, occupation mason's labourer (same as CHF on 1901)

Piece 1925, folio 25, p 4

Charles also with Sarah in 1891

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 22:09 BST (UK) »
There's a couple of Eliza (and similar) Fords b Bath c1865 on the 1881 census. One's a domestic servant in lodgings in Bath - possible?

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 22:11 BST (UK) »
Is the 1901 you have the Charles Fortt, age 60 boarding with Sarah Tucker in Bradford on Avon? 
Is she a relative of his mother?

Anyway if so, have you ruled out the one whose age is 10 yrs out, but dies in 1906 B on A.

(Crossed with Mabel)

The Eliza Ford lodging with a Charlotte Bryant looks possible to me. Although Charlotte has a different place of birth to all her other entries.