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Offline Jason Jase

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 27 June 24 18:23 BST (UK) »
alright thank you thank you.

I am now back up to Charles Henry Fortt surviving siblings

to recap what I have 

William James Fortt
B:Abt. 1832 Somerset, England

all I have on him is a baptism and 1841 and 1851 census

Baptisms at Walcot St Swithins
William James Fortt 11 January 1832

1841
Piece   970
Book   12
Folio   33
Page number   11
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1851 • chatham barracks, Walcot, Somerset, England
William James Fortt could be an Army Private Chatham Barracks Walcot Somerset

I found a possible death for him on find a grave but it is hard to tell if it is the right person
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222693593/william-fortt

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as for
Elizabeth Fortt ???
B:1834 Lansdown, Bath, Somerset, England

multiple people have her
married to
Joseph Harris Patrick ???? but the documents don't line up. I have found no marriage record of that. None of the patrick children listed on their tree show up in the GRO even though they are in the right time to be there.

so I am not sure about the marriage?




 

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 27 June 24 21:36 BST (UK) »
The William Fortt burial looks to be in the same grave as a Mary Fortt b 1795, died or buried 16 May 1846 with an address in Milsom St

There are some other Fortts in that graveyard - might be worth seeing if there's any connection

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 27 June 24 22:01 BST (UK) »
this is the Milsom St Fortt family in 1841 who are involved in t he non conformist burials

Willm Fortt       45  confectioner
Mary Fortt    45
Eliza Fortt        15
Robert Fortt     15
Emma Fortt      15
Jane Fortt         11
William Fortt     10
James Fortt      8
Emily Fortt        4

Mary and young William are in grave ?.A.10

In C.A 11  (next grave?) are John  1757-1842, John 1835-40 and Mary Ann 1829-1831. The two children are from Milsom St.

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 27 June 24 22:11 BST (UK) »
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Joseph Harris Patrick ???? but the documents don't line up. I have found no marriage record of that. None of the patrick children listed on their tree show up in the GRO even though they are in the right time to be there.

Have you not looked at Joseph in the 1861 census? A big clue there I think.


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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 27 June 24 22:13 BST (UK) »
[SNAP!} I'm looking at the Joseph Harris Patrick connection

He marries in 1846 a Caroline Tucker in Weston

1861

Joseph H Patrick    36    Head
Joseph H Patrick     11
Mary H Patrick         6
Emily H Patrick         1
Elizabeth Fortt        76 [16 26] niece (corrected)
   

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 27 June 24 22:23 BST (UK) »
At least one child is on  GRO

PATRICK, ELIZABETH  HARRIS      
mmn FORTT     
Q2 1870
BATH  Volume 05C  Page 694

They may not have married if they were related in the way suggested on 1861

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 29 June 24 01:55 BST (UK) »
this is the Milsom St Fortt family in 1841 who are involved in t he non conformist burials

Willm Fortt       45  confectioner
Mary Fortt    45
Eliza Fortt        15
Robert Fortt     15
Emma Fortt      15
Jane Fortt         11
William Fortt     10
James Fortt      8
Emily Fortt        4

Mary and young William are in grave ?.A.10

In C.A 11  (next grave?) are John  1757-1842, John 1835-40 and Mary Ann 1829-1831. The two children are from Milsom St.

The William Fortt here is my 3x great grandfather a museum exhibition was done on them in 2013.
I fair sized book was also written on their business Called "Biscuits, banquets & Bollinger.
This is the right William Fortt for this family. I have tons of information on them and where very interesting to research .

For the A 10 Grave this Mary Fortt (nee Fisk) died in 1846. is that the right date on the grave you found?

Important to clarify her child William Fortt (jr) from the above names is buried with her????

I have had issues with finding the right William Fortt Chid for William and Mary.

Most people on Ancestry have mixed up my third great grandfather son William Fortt born 1831 Bath, Somerset, England with William King Fortt.

William King Fortt is the son of
John Fortt who is William Fortt seniors' brother (one of his siblings I actually have information on)

Where did you find the grave?

 

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 29 June 24 02:26 BST (UK) »
Okay, so Joseph Patrick is Eliza's Fortt's uncle by marriage from what must be her mom's sister 

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Re: clarification on the siblings
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 29 June 24 21:06 BST (UK) »
Hopefully this link will take you to search results on Find My Grave for Fortts in the Walcot Methodist Chapel Burial Ground 

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2694375/memorial-search?firstName=&lastName=Fortt&includeMaidenName=true&page=1#sr-222693586