Author Topic: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle  (Read 801 times)

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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 21:08 BST (UK) »
Yes that is correct.  Very sad situation. 

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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 June 24 01:06 BST (UK) »
I'm not seeing any newspaper reports involving neglect or mistreatment of the three daughters.

Without knowing the actual circumstances, my guess is mum Rosina Amelia had a lot on her plate.
Particularly if she was a widow by 1914. Throw WW1 into the mix, as well.

As noted earlier, she boarded at the Home for Deaf and Dumb Women and Girls from December 1914 to April 1915. (The Home was established by the Liverpool Adult Deaf and Dumb Benevolent Society).

Given the 1915 record note "Discharged by the Committee" I wonder who they were. And were they involved in decisions regarding the children of widowed mothers?

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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 June 24 01:30 BST (UK) »
BevBaker has posted the following on this thread, and it provides some background which may be of use to those trying to assist.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=878849.0

 "….. Rosina Amelia Batterham was the daughter of Robert Batterham and Martha Ponton.  Robert was a bit of an entrepreneur - rather successful really!  He joined the military in 1859, then left the forces and went to Islington before marrying Martha. 
Coming back to Rosina Amelia, she had the most challenging of lives: she suffered from Measles when she was small and this could have been the reason that she was deaf (or deaf and "dumb", as they said in those days).  She was elected to join the Deaf and Dumb Asylum in Margate in 1883 and although her entry records noted her as not very bright, she left school in 1889 with top marks. 
She married William Boyle, who was also deaf and as you know had three girls.  Her health however was not one of the best and she was admitted to the Mill Road hospital on at least two occasions.  Then her husband died of peritonitis on 22 Oct 1914 and from there everything seems to go wrong for her.  She also looses her mother in 1915, with whom she lived.  She then remaries James Wilkinson, who in turn dies 5 years later of cerebral haemorrhage in 1922.  I suppose this is why she "lost" her children to Dr. Barnados'.  She remarries a 3rd and last time John Lucey in 1926, who is found dead in the Mersey by drowning.  Suicide? 
The one thing that really frustrates me is that Barnados' refuse to let me see their file, as I am not, "next of kin".  I really just wanted to know whether the children were abandoned, or whether they were removed, as it was often the case in those days."
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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 June 24 11:36 BST (UK) »
John Lucey was 13yrs older than Rosina - he died 1927 aged 66 so b 1861.  Rosina died 1950 aged 76
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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 June 24 14:35 BST (UK) »
Completely off topic - but my only daughter was born in Mill Road Hospital in 1983 - and I never knew it was previously a Workhouse .... beautiful building  :)
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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 June 24 16:53 BST (UK) »
My maternal grandfather died there in 1935.  He was in the hospital part as he had cancer
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