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Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« on: Wednesday 19 June 24 14:06 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I am new to RootsChat.
I am a keen genealogist, writing my Batterham side of the family and I am stuck on one part of my 2nd cousins twice remove, mentioned above.
I have found a lot of information on these 3 girls who were part of a group of 10 Barnardos' girls who boarded the SS Sophocles on 6 November 1924 for Australia.
The one thing I cannot access is their file from "Making Connections" aka Barnardos, as they do not regard me a next of kin.  They have acknowledged that as none of these girls had children, and not being in a position to find a closer cousin, this means that their files will never be disclosed. 
I can of course read through the lines, and realise their mother lived a very complicated life, but I just want to know whether she "abandoned" her girls or whether they were forcibly removed. 
I know this is a long shot, but is anyone here related to them and could claim to be a potential next of kin? 
Thank you !

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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 14:45 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat, I can't help you but I am sure someone on here will.
Good luck
 
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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 18:00 BST (UK) »
Welcome from me too

Florence was 15 & Rosina 16 but I can't see a Doris on the same passenger list - she would have been 20yrs old by then

BOYLE, DORIS        BATTERHAM     
GRO Reference: 1904  S Quarter in WALSALL  Volume 06B  Page 805

BOYLE, FLORENCE        BATTERHAM     
GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 117

BOYLE, ROSINA  AMELIA      BATTERHAM     
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 86
 
Marriages Dec 1903   
BATTERHAM    Rosina Amelia    Walsall 6b   1338    
Boyle    William        

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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 18:09 BST (UK) »
1921 census - all three sisters are at Dr Baranrdos Village Homes in Essex.

"Both parents alive" according to the census record.


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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 18:10 BST (UK) »
Rosina Boyle remarried in 1917 to James Wilkinson
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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 18:12 BST (UK) »
Rosina Boyle remarried in 1917 to James Wilkinson

Looks like they're in Everton in 1921. He's out of work.

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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 18:12 BST (UK) »
2 possible deaths for William Boyle - he was 34 in 1911 so possibly the 1914 one


Deaths Dec 1914   

Boyle    William    37    W.Derby    8b   703

Deaths Dec 1916 
Boyle    William    37    W.Derby    8b   487
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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 18:26 BST (UK) »
Liverpool Workhouse Registers
Register Of Children Maintained By Other Institutions (Not Under the Control of the Guardians)
Home for Deaf and Dumb Women and Girls

Date  Dec 1914
Name  Rosina Boyle
Birth year  1874
Address  113 Rish?? Street
She is recorded as "Deaf & Dumb"
Discharge date  April 1915  (Discharged by the Committee)

There's a 1907 Creed Register for mum Rosina, as well.
Mill Road Hospital (West Derby Union Workhouse)
Looks like she has ulcerated tonsills?
Husband is William Boyle (dock labourer)
Address  77 Hartnup Street

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Re: Doris, Rosina Amelia and Florence Boyle
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 June 24 18:53 BST (UK) »
1911 census - both Rosina Amelia and husband William are recorded as deaf and dumb.  :(

If William died in 1914 this would tie-in with the Register Of Children Maintained By Other Institutions record above.

Sounds like Rosina wasn't able to cope with the situation circa 1914, and that might explain why her three daughters ended up in Dr Barnardos.

A very sad story.

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There's a 1912 Creed Register for daughter Florence (age 2).
She was admitted to Mill Road Hospital with bronchial pneumonia.
Father  William Boyle (saddler).
Address  86 Towson Street, Everton