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Alexander Stronach of Drainie abt 1795 - bfr 1857
« on: Sunday 16 June 24 14:44 BST (UK) »
Alexander Stronach b. abt 1795 Elgin. (Census 1851 Drainie). 3 A.S born in Elgin between 1785-1800
Wife, Isabella Sinclair b. 1796, m. 1821, d. 1857 (as widow) all in Drainie.
Alex is listed in Cen '51 (village of Lossiemouth) as "former Drainie crofter for" or "former drain contractor" (difficult to read).

I have not been able to find his death cert nor parents.

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Re: Alexander Stronach of Drainie abt 1795 - bfr 1857
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 June 24 18:30 BST (UK) »
If he died before the start of civil registration on 1 January 1855 there is no death certificate to be found.

The FreeCEN transcription of the 1851 census has him as formerly drain contractor. His age is given as 57, which, if it is accurate, points to a birth in 1793/1794.

The 1841 lists him as aged 40. In 1841 adults' ages were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 years, so if this is accurate he was born between 1796 and 1801.

As these two sets of dates do not overlap, at least one of them is inaccurate.

There are two records of Alexander Stronachs baptised in Elgin between 1790 and 1805
- son of Alexander Stronach and Barbara Sim, baptised 1795
- son of William Stronach and Janet Laing, baptised 1799

The family of Alexander Stronach and Isabella Sinclair was
William, Jane, Isabel, James, Janet, Alexandrina and Anne. No Alexander and no Barbara.

His eldest son was William, and his third daughter was Janet. Isabella's death index says was 61 so if her age is accurate she was born in 1793/1794. This doesn't overlap with her age of 57 in the 1851 census, which suggests she was born in 1797/1798, so at least one of those ages is inaccurate.

However the death index says she mother's maiden surname in Thompson, so there is a good chance that she is the daughter of William Sinclair and Jane Thomson, baptised in Drainie in 1796.

And a good chance that Alexander is the son of William Stronach and Janet Laing, though he could also be a completely different Alexander Stronach whose baptism record has not survived.

Have you looked at the baptism certificates of the children? Do they name the witnesses at the baptisms, and if so do the witnesses provide any clues?
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Alexander Stronach of Drainie abt 1795 - bfr 1857
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 June 24 20:01 BST (UK) »
Cheers again Forfarian,
Ancestry suggests Barbara Sim as the potential parent but I have had a fair number of those "potentials" to be wrong, once you collect the various BMD & cen. As you say this far back its common for entries to be missing so there maybe another A.S. couple in the Elgin shadows.
Isabella Sinclair I am happy with and her parents.
Alexandrina m cert in '59 and Isabella Sinclair d cert '57. lists Alex as deceased.
I have still to expand the other kids BMD's and will keep an eye out for the witnesses.
If they have stuck with the tradition of grandparents names then Will & Janet are the right couple.
I have found a few parish in my searches without any death records before '55 or only a gravestone for reference.. The Shee's in King Edward are a fine example of that.

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Re: Alexander Stronach of Drainie abt 1795 - bfr 1857
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 June 24 20:40 BST (UK) »
Ancestry suggests Barbara Sim as the potential parent but I have had a fair number of those "potentials" to be wrong, once you collect the various BMD & cen.
That doesn't surprise me in the least.

Never trust anything you find online, especially on Ancestry, but also on MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites, unless it's an image of an original document - though even original documents can contain errors.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: Alexander Stronach of Drainie abt 1795 - bfr 1857
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 November 24 21:45 GMT (UK) »
I don’t know if this helps but www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk today had:
Alexander Stronach and wife Barbara Sim, with a son William Stronach born 13th April 1777 in Elgin area.
I was researching another William and just happened to make a note of it.
Dynan, McNamara, with potentially O’Dea, Casey, Mahoney, O’Neill and other historic Irish, likely Co Clare surname connections.

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Re: Alexander Stronach of Drainie abt 1795 - bfr 1857
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 November 24 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Moragdon,
I have a copy of them, but it does not fit with the certs I have for the rest of the tree.
Cheers