Author Topic: Brick Wall ancestor Elizabeth Phair b-1858 Ireland  (Read 1335 times)

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Re: Brick Wall ancestor Elizabeth Phair b-1858 Ireland
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 16 June 24 22:45 BST (UK) »

Gaffy,

Great find. I think we have the right family!


Your find really, I just played with the spelling of the surname, but yes, it looks like them alright.


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Re: Brick Wall ancestor Elizabeth Phair b-1856 Ireland
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 16 June 24 23:39 BST (UK) »
I rely on her death certificate as it's the only source I can find that names her parents, and one of the only sources I can find on her, that provides valuable info.

She would have given the information herself when she married which is usually much more reliable.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/dataCollected/marriage

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Re: Brick Wall ancestor Elizabeth Phair b-1858 Ireland
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 16 June 24 23:57 BST (UK) »
Lolz,

We think we have probably found your family in Fermanagh. What else do you what to know?
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Re: Brick Wall ancestor Elizabeth Phair b-1858 Ireland
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 June 24 00:42 BST (UK) »
I cannot thank you enough, you have done the impossible. I have alot of research ahead of me, but I truly think you may have found the family. I always thought that the records may have been destroyed, due to the lack of info on the family, but this new info gives me hope. Wishing you all the best.

Thanks Lauren
Phair-Ireland, Sandeman genealogy-esp Young, Baxter, Beveridge and Bell family. Dunlop-Ireland, Cowell-Essex, Buckham-england, Sparkes-Norfolk, Thompson-Ireland, Gibson& Martin-Netherlands


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Re: Brick Wall ancestor Elizabeth Phair b-1858 Ireland
« Reply #13 on: Monday 17 June 24 01:17 BST (UK) »
Lauren,

Glad to have helped. Obviously your focus has been to identify early relatives origins. Now you know where they probably came from you might be interested in any family who remained. The Phair family seem to have remained in the area for many years. There’s this probate abstract (taken from PRONI’s records):

Phair John of Tiraroe Derrylinn P.O. county Fermanagh farmer died 12 January 1945 Probate Londonderry 8 July to Edward Rutledge farmer and Anne Jane Phair widow of testator. Effects £1476 10s. 2d.

The will itself is not on-line but is in PRONI in Belfast. Perhaps there are Phairs in Tiraroe today? Something to consider.

It’s easy enough to identify where the Phair farm was/is. And obviously the local Tourist Board would be delighted if you decided to come and visit!


You can see where the Phair family farmed in Tiraroe using the Griffiths Valuation website.

https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

It was a 30 acre farm. Based on what I can see from a satellite image, today it’s on the modern Ned Rd.   It’s still a working farm and the same size it was in the 1800s. Some might say it’s in the middle of nowhere but it is in a lovely area and you would surely enjoy visiting.
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Re: Brick Wall ancestor Elizabeth Phair b-1858 Ireland
« Reply #14 on: Monday 17 June 24 14:34 BST (UK) »
Once again thank you for all your help. I would love to come visit Ireland, although I am in Australia aka the furthest away you could get from it. Looks like a beautiful place. Luscious green grass and it looks very peaceful.

All the best Lauren
Phair-Ireland, Sandeman genealogy-esp Young, Baxter, Beveridge and Bell family. Dunlop-Ireland, Cowell-Essex, Buckham-england, Sparkes-Norfolk, Thompson-Ireland, Gibson& Martin-Netherlands