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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 13:44 BST (UK) »
I have a major breakthrough. (Albeit an expensive one!)

A tracing agency has found his death, in Barry, Glamorgan on 22 Sep 2014.
He married Kathleen Caroline Mary Grieshaber (b 1937) in 1990, so it is to that family that I shall now turn for recent knowledge of his life.
Thanks, all, I'll keep you posted and look here for any further news.

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 14:15 BST (UK) »
That possible marriage and death were mentioned by softly softly in your earlier post.

Is there anything to guarantee this is your Arthur (father / witnesses at the marriage or occupation) as there are several entries for an Arthur born in Barry in 1923 over the years. Can’t remember what now - will check - but it made me think the Barry one wasn’t yours.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 17:02 BST (UK) »
I agree, a marriage certificate should show his fathers name .
 I have found some records to suggest Kathleen Caroline Mary was a Collins
So the certificate should have a father of that name.
There is a marriage of Collins and Grieshaber,  and following that is the birth of 2 children one of which could be alive.
I'm not putting more , as a tracing agency could have already found all that.
Kathleen died in 2015. Registered Bridgend
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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 17:28 BST (UK) »
I agree, a marriage certificate should show his fathers name .
 I have found some records to suggest Kathleen Caroline Mary was a Collins
So the certificate should have a father of that name.
There is a marriage of Collins and Grieshaber,  and following that is the birth of 2 children one of which could be alive.
I'm not putting more , as a tracing agency could have already found all that.
Kathleen died in 2015. Registered Bridgend
Thanks, I had all of that confirmed in my tree this morning.
I am in touch with one Grieshaber tree owner who is unfortunately not related to Kathleen.
I await the response of my message to the other, who clearly is!


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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 17:46 BST (UK) »
Have you got certificates though? Waiting for tree owners to reply (some of whom never do) is frustrating. And some trees are full of incorrect information.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 17:50 BST (UK) »
I agree, a marriage certificate should show his fathers name .
 I have found some records to suggest Kathleen Caroline Mary was a Collins
So the certificate should have a father of that name.
There is a marriage of Collins and Grieshaber,  and following that is the birth of 2 children one of which could be alive.
I'm not putting more , as a tracing agency could have already found all that.
Kathleen died in 2015. Registered Bridgend
Thanks, I had all of that confirmed in my tree this morning.
I am in touch with one Grieshaber tree owner who is unfortunately not related to Kathleen.
I await the response of my message to the other, who clearly is!

Can I ask how long the tracing agency took to track him down, just wondering.    ???
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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 17:52 BST (UK) »
Have you got certificates though? Waiting for tree owners to reply (some of whom never do) is frustrating. And some trees are full of incorrect information.
Death certificate is en route to the agency, and will be with me in 10 days.
Marriage certificate applied for, awaiting a call from Vale of Glamorgan to take the payment.
I agree, though ..... it's now up to the tree owner to make contact.
Luckily I'm going away on holiday on Thursday so the wait will be easier  ;D.
John.

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 17:53 BST (UK) »
Great, hopefully they will include the answers you want. Enjoy your holiday. 
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 18 June 24 17:53 BST (UK) »

Can I ask how long the tracing agency took to track him down, just wondering.    ???

Around 24 hours  :)