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Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« on: Thursday 13 June 24 17:04 BST (UK) »
This is my first post, having been introduced to this wonderful gathering of minds by the amazing moiramount. Thank you to her, and to Deirdre784, Ladyhawk, softly softly and Heddwch for their highly valued input.

Although a thread exists on my enquiry, I felt it more appropriate to begin a new thread with the information available to me, and to recognise the help of those who have helped me thus far. Although I have dabbled in genealogy a few rimes since the eighties, this venture is a completely new one for me. I am a complete novice when it comes to online research, but am a fast learner.

A DNA test last year shows that my presumed paternal family are not related to me, and that my father is one Arthur Phillips, b 1923 in Pontypridd, and served in the RAF close to my place of birth during the years around my arrival on the planet. I am in touch via Ancestry with the daughter of my first cousin by DNA. Her father, Beric Phillips, was the brother of Arthur.

I am trying initially to obtain Arthur’s military service record, but for that we need to produce a death certificate.

As a result of your initial collective digging, we have unearthed two exciting newspaper articles, one particularly so from an air show close to my place of birth at the time of my conception, the second showing a photograph of Arthur lecturing auxiliary fireman on rescue techniques.

Arthur is said to have died on the Isle of Wight, having retired from piloting the hovercraft ferries. After a telephone chat with the IOW Registry  Office today it seems that is not the case, so he could have died anywhere, or, and this is the most exciting possibility, he may still be alive somewhere.

I am prepared to put a lot of work in on this, but I am also aware of my limitations in both time and ability, and would be eternally grateful for your friendly pointers along the way.



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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 June 24 19:41 BST (UK) »
Welcome JCB, unfortunately we are not allowed to research people who may still be alive, and despite earlier searches on the other thread, I can’t find a death for him. Especially annoying as we have his birth date.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 June 24 20:38 BST (UK) »
There is no apparent 1939 register entry for him.  As he is now 101yrs old I thought his entry may be opened giving his full birthdate.   
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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 June 24 20:42 BST (UK) »
I hoped that too, but can't find anything; he's not with his parents, I've looked for all Arthurs with his birthdate, and I've tried close dates to his actual DoB, so can only assume that the entry is badly transcribed so he can't be found easily.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....


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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 June 24 21:02 BST (UK) »
Tree on Ancestry has birthdate as 8.3.23.  Mind you - the same tree displays a marriage record of an Arthur Phillips marrying in Yorkshire in 1937 (14yrs old)!!

That particular couple were both b 1914
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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 June 24 21:05 BST (UK) »
softly softly downloaded the digital image - date of birth was definitely 8 March 1923. But the marriage and his mother's death are wrong on a couple of ancestry trees.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 June 24 21:21 BST (UK) »
Find My Past offers a probate death in Hampshire (no town listed) on 10 July 2018 of an Arthur Phillips, but there's no Hampshire death listed on the GRO. Will available on the probate site.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 June 24 21:45 BST (UK) »
GRO Online - That death could be the Arthur Phillips b 1923 died Derbyshire Sept qtr 2018.  Probate was Winchester
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Re: Arthur Phillips b 1923 Pontypridd (Flt Lt, RAF)
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 June 24 21:49 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast entry says residence town '-' county Hampshire though (i didn't think that related to the probate registry).
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....