1836 transported 7 years... children on board?

[maddys52]

Interesting notice in 1842:

"IF SARAH ANN BATCHELOR, who arrived in the colony per ship Elizabeth, (5) 1836, and was transferred to Captain Button, from the Orphan School, and went to the Cassilis district, will address a line to her mother, she will hear of something to her advantage. Address Sarah Smith, at J. J. Howell's, Esq., Arkstone Forest, Burrows, Yass."
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12875438 (last column, near the top)

Possibly this entry in the Archives:
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/INDEX1912660

And one for William BATCHELOR:
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/INDEX2876057

Is this the other child - Mary BATCHELOR?:
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/INDEX2876055

Modified to add:
"J J HOWELL" was John James HOWELL, a property owner at Arkstone Forest. He died in 1847.

[maddys52]

In 1935 the parish register was discovered which included the marriage for Sarah and Thomas:

"17th Feb. 1839, Thomas Smith and Sarah Batchelor, alias Cunkhow, both of Arkstone, at Arkstone."
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/249538168

[wivenhoe]

At reply #7 -

  "On the List of Female Convicts on the Elizabeth (5), arrived 12 Oct 1836."

    where does this reference live?. Looks interesting. "

[Neale1961]

At reply #7 -

  "On the List of Female Convicts on the Elizabeth (5), arrived 12 Oct 1836."

    where does this reference live?. Looks interesting. "

It comes from the convict Indent, but gives no more detail about the children.

[maddys52]

At reply #7 -

  "On the List of Female Convicts on the Elizabeth (5), arrived 12 Oct 1836."

    where does this reference live?. Looks interesting. "

It's on Ancestry in the "Annotated Printed Indentures" which is part of "New South Wales, Australia, Convict Indents, 1788-1842".

[Dundee]

The three children were admitted to the workhouse at St Giles on 8 Sep 1832, Sarah, 7, Mary, 5 and William, 3½ under the surname CRINKHORN/CRUNKHORN.  I doubt that Sarah was married to the father of the children.  I can see possible baptisms at St Sepulchre for Sarah and Mary but nothing for William.  The children were discharged to their mother at Newgate prison on 9 Jun 1836.

It does seem unlikely that William would have returned to England, why do you think they are the same person?

Debra 

[Neale1961]

It does seem unlikely that William would have returned to England, why do you think they are the same person?

I wonder if Lasswade has been looking at trees on Ancestry. The ones containing the most “information” are also full of incredible and glaringly obvious errors.

[lasswade]

Thank you all, esp. for the internet resources, yet to check them out.

Yes, I have looked at family trees on Ancestry, seemed like a good resource. Yes, Neale1961, now I am not sure if the William I have been tracing is actually the one who wss my gg. grandfather. If it turns out that way, I am sorry you have all been to so much trouble over it.

I have spent a lot of time looking for William and his daughter Lily. with nothing definite forthcoming, it seemed that if either of them could not be found, then maybe they had moved out of UK. Then it made sense that either they arranged an expensive and disruptive voyage themselves, or that they may have been transported here (to Aus).

Will follow up all your idess, thanks, lasswade.