john crouch b 1813

[ask4bob]

Hi
In 1861 they seem to living under the surname Burley
Stone Kent
John Burley 40 ag lab Seal
Selina 34 Pemborough
Jane 9 London
Alfred 5 Seal
Edward 4 Seal
Mary Ann 3 Hytham
William 1 month Stone.

Hope that helps

Ciderdrinker

Wow,thats all new to me thankyou but the ages don't match for John or Selina as per the 1853 marriage certificate,he was 40 in 1853 and Selina 24 but its intriguing non the less.

[ColC]

I note all the baptisms you mention on Ancestry but no census returns, I did see the baptism for Edwin & Alfred on freereg, it notes Father John a Labourer abode Underriver. Mary Ann & John were baptised together on 16 Aug 1859 but Mary Ann was born 16 Feb 1858. Wiiliams baptism also on freereg.

GRO registrations below. Mothers Maiden name YOUNG on all

CROUCH, ALFRED    
 GRO Reference: 1855  S Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION  Volume 02A  Page 318

CROUCH, EDWIN    
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION  Volume 02A  Page 340

This one not on GRO but on freebmd but a different quarter?
Births Mar 1859

CROUCH Mary Ann
  Sevenoaks 2a 309

CROUCH, JOHN    
GRO Reference: 1859  J Quarter in SEVENOAKS UNION  Volume 02A  Page 370

No registration for William on GRO or freebmd?


Colin

[ask4bob]

The youngest son William was also registered as Burley with mother's maiden name Young

BURLEY, WILLIAM        mothers maiden name YOUNG     
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in DARTFORD  Volume 02A  Page 280

also BURLEY, WILLIAM  EDWIN   mothers maiden name YOUNG     
GRO Reference: 1858  S Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 555

Great thankyou.

[Kay99]

Possibly daughter Mary Ann?

 BURLEY, ANNE  MARIA      mmn YOUNG     
GRO Reference: 1860  S Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 611

I wonder what happened in the late 1850's that resulted in the surname change??

Kay

[ask4bob]

Possibly daughter Mary Ann?

 BURLEY, ANNE  MARIA      mmn YOUNG     
GRO Reference: 1860  S Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 611

I wonder what happened in the late 1850's that resulted in the surname change??

Kay

Me too,the plot thickens,sounds illegal though lol

[ColC]

I do not think this is the correct birth for Mary Ann, her mother was Leigh

This one not on GRO but on freebmd but a different quarter?
Births Mar 1859
CROUCH Mary Ann
  Sevenoaks 2a 309

So more likely the one posted above.

Colin

[Kay99]

1871 Dartford Union Workhouse, Dartford

John Burley 56 married imate b Seal, Kent  Ag Lab

Kay

[ask4bob]

1871 Dartford Union Workhouse, Dartford

John Burley 56 married imate b Seal, Kent  Ag Lab

Kay

Thanks for all your help  :-)

[Kay99]

John is still in the workhouse in 1881 but listed as a widower