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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 29 June 24 11:22 BST (UK) »
I’ve found this from 1915, maybe our ancestor?

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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 29 June 24 12:19 BST (UK) »
Here is the record from 1913 a spinster from Byker
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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 25 July 24 14:59 BST (UK) »
I am glad these burial finds are helpful.  I have now transferred both to you and so you will be able to add to bios as you wish.
North Shields local studies is great as they have index volumes with names of people who were buried at cemeteries in a given year.  So I was able to see quite quickly that a Francis and a Mary Graham were buried at Church Bank before moving on to the microfilm which has the full burial info on.
The index volumes also record if the grave was purchased.  I did notice when I checked for Francis that he is not recorded as in a register of purchased graves, so I would imagine they will be in  unmarked plots.

https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/category/557/contact-bereavement-services

Perhaps if you email bereavement services they might put up a temporary marker for you so you will know the exact spot.  I don't know if this applies but I do know that at least up until fairly recently they were doing this service for free.  It might be worth enquiring to see if it is still free.

Do you mean the index volumes as in books which you can leaf through?

I did get an email bak from the bereavement services, "For any grave search requests, please contact our office on 0191 643 6070.  Please note that a payment of £10 is required before we can carry out each grave search."

 
I have been at the local studios in Newcastle  city library on both the computer version on the microfilm reader and the actual microfilm reader, scrolling through to to find exactly where in Elswick and St. John cemetery my ancestor Charles Graham who died in the workhouse in 1910, was buried and it was a most unpleasant experience, with the neck and shoulders locked (I have mulculoskeletal issues) and the  neauseous vertigo from looking at the moving screen  as I also have problems with my eyesight.
On the most recent visit I thought "this is horrible, why am I doing this to myself?
 I was really very happy a while back around 2021  to be able to look at the original volumes in tyne and wear archives when the microfilm readers were closed due to covid restrictions. I got some fantastic discoveries there. 
Because I already have a map of Church bank with the sections marked on it I was able to go and see where my relatives  Francis and Mary were buried. Not exactly where but roughly.
So Catherine and Mary Ann were sisters, daughter of John Coleman and Mary Ann Coleman nee Dixon. Mary Ann Coleman nee Dixon was also buried in Church Bank. John Coleman in "Preston" due to dying in the Tynemouth workhouse.

Catherine and Mary Ann Coleman had 4 brothers.  Samuel Dixon Coleman died as an infant, 1871-1871.
John Coleman  infant death 1873 -1873
John Coleman infant death 1877-1877
James Coleman as far as I know remained single ,  1878 -1915 died in WW1 Hooge Belgium.
I think the babies re probably in Church Bank Cemetery.
Please note that Mary Ann  Coleman married Francis Graham. All her babies had mother's maiden name Coleman and Father's name Graham.
Her sister Catherine Dixon Coleman married Patrick Graham. Therefore all her babies had mother's maiden name Coleman and Father's name Graham. Do not mix these children up!
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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 25 July 24 16:51 BST (UK) »
While I was suffering away in the city library I decided to take a photo of a couple of the items on the screen that I thought might have had something to do with the Graham family to make it all worthwhile….
Would it be okay to share them here or would it be a breach of the rules?
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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 06 August 24 17:05 BST (UK) »
Church Bank cemetery records start at 1879 so the Coleman babies could not have bee interred there.
However, I have found their records under St Peter's Church, Wallsend.

If you would like these memorials which I have added to Find A Grave transferred to you just let me know.  I am happy either way.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/273343550/samuel-dixon-coleman?createdMemorial=Yes

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/273343605/john-coleman?createdMemorial=Yes

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/273343674/john-coleman?createdMemorial=Yes

By the way, re the index volumes for North Tyneside Cemeteries (not Church burials) yes I do means there are large books at North Shields local studies, containing indexes - year and names of people buried.  This makes researching so much easier and quicker, say, if you find a Fred Bloggs under 1895 at Church Bank or wherever and then you can check the microfilm to see full info to try to ascertain if he is actually your 'Fred Bloggs'. :)
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 07 August 24 19:25 BST (UK) »
Just to let you know I have found the above Mary Graham in an entry for Byker and Heaton Cemetery in Section J Plot 86.  I have no idea though if there might be a memorial on the grave site or not.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/273372264/mary-graham?createdMemorial=Yes

I have added this too to Find a Grave.  If you would like a transfer of this too just let me know
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #24 on: Friday 09 August 24 09:11 BST (UK) »
Yes please!
I will update it with the info I found.
I don't think she is
my relative but someone could be looking for her so adding more details could be useful.
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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 17 August 24 07:00 BST (UK) »
Hi OurAncestors,
I have recently noticed something which I think is useful so I am mentioning in case this might be of help on occasion when you may be able to go to the North Shields local studies for any of your research.
I have noticed the huge burial index volumes for Church Bank and Holy Cross cemeteries also include a column at the end which indicates if a person's grave was purchased or not.  I think this is helpful in this could indicate if someone might have a memorial.
Unfortunately, Preston Cemetery volumes do not show this same feature.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 30 October 24 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the information about the burial indexes. It will be very interesting to look at next time I am there.
I have been to North Shields local studies to see if I could find any more  on the infant burials at St Peters however  was told  there is no burial record  book  in the local studies and so I did try to find more about them on the microfiche, with no luck!
Ive also been to have another look at St Peters churchyard but it's very old and a lot of it is overgrown. I think it's likely the infants were buried with adults rather than having individual graves.


There was a sibling,  Margaret Dixon Coleman born and died in 1870 in Haverton Hill, Billingham, where her parents were residing. I put the details in a separate post about John Coleman.
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