Mary Ann Graham Newcastle upon Tyne missing records

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https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=857179.0

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/235643206/alfred-patrick-graham

I originally found son, Alfred Patrick Graham in Church Bank Cemetery, Wallsend.

If Mary Ann was 56 when husband died in 1910, might she be the Mary Ann Graham who died in Tynemouth district Dec quarter 1911 age 58?

She may have moved to Wallsend area as son did, perhaps?  Might she also be buried at Church Bank Cemetery?

Good thinking
Yes her son and his family were in North Shields in 1911 so it would have been feasible for her to move in with them. However I don’t think that is the correct record having looked at it that lady was married to William Graham a farmer and the death notified by her daughter S Graham of Chirton West View.
I sent already for the certificate to check and there is also a 1911 census for that family  at chirton west view.
In regards to the church bank cemetery both Patrick and Catherine are buried there also Catherine’s mother Mary ann Coleman and probably because it was both near North Shields and Willington Quay and Willington Quay was where the Colemans lived for a long time.

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I have a death certificate for another Mary Ann Graham who was the sister of Patrick’s wife Catherine. She died of pneumonia influenza in 1918 at 63 bewicke street, informant was her husband Francis Graham (Patrick’s uncle). He also died in 1918. I probably should get a death certificate for Francis and look for where they are buried. There’s  nothing on find a grave and no memorial at church bank.

[River Tyne Lass]

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/271523926/francis-graham?createdMemorial=Yes

I think I may have found Francis & Mary for you at Church Bank.
Let me know if you would like a transfer, if so?  I am happy either way.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/271523987/mary-graham

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Hello,
You seem to have  a superpower and yes these are my family.
Yes please if you transfer the memorial I will update the bios.
 I have been to Church Bank cemetery a number of times looking and not finding  and I also looked on FindaGrave so thank you so very much. How special to get this news. I am going to go and have another look armed with the plot info. What I think is happening is that they did not have funds to put up headstones. Both dying in the same year... I know that some of their children moved in with  Patrick and Catherine in Front Street/Milburn Place  North Shields. A lot of people died of the Spanish flu in 1918, I have sent for Francis's death certificate so will wait and see. You may remember one of my family funded Catherine and Patricks' grave by buying a lease on the plot in 1947 but she would have been only 17.  in 1918.

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I am glad these burial finds are helpful.  I have now transferred both to you and so you will be able to add to bios as you wish.
North Shields local studies is great as they have index volumes with names of people who were buried at cemeteries in a given year.  So I was able to see quite quickly that a Francis and a Mary Graham were buried at Church Bank before moving on to the microfilm which has the full burial info on.
The index volumes also record if the grave was purchased.  I did notice when I checked for Francis that he is not recorded as in a register of purchased graves, so I would imagine they will be in  unmarked plots.

https://my.northtyneside.gov.uk/category/557/contact-bereavement-services

Perhaps if you email bereavement services they might put up a temporary marker for you so you will know the exact spot.  I don't know if this applies but I do know that at least up until fairly recently they were doing this service for free.  It might be worth enquiring to see if it is still free.

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Thank you very much
I will ask if they can send me a map with the grave marked on it
I'm fairly sure that there will be other members of my family in church bank so I will get down to the local studies asap
Would those records also be in city library ?
Ive had Francis Grahams dc today and I thought I would share
Francis Graham did die from influenza
His son Francis was the informant

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Hello
I have obtained another certificate for a Francis Graham an infant cousin. I hope this may be useful to someone

[River Tyne Lass]

This is very kind of you to post this information for the benefit of others who may be researching the same family.

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The name of the informant was the vital clue, Francis Grahams MIL!