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What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« on: Monday 27 May 24 08:15 BST (UK) »
William Crean was born in 1865, in Main St. Wexford, the third of the 10 children of Aidan Peter Crean and his wife Mary Redmond.

His father was a master baker, with a bakery in Main St. Unfortunately, the bakery went bankrupt and was auctioned in December 1881.

Aidan Peter, meanwhile, emigrated to the US, traveling to New York cabin class from Dublin in November 1881, without his family, and proceeded to Chicago. The surviving children and his wife appear to have joined him in Chicago at indeterminate dates over the next few years.

Aidan Peter died in Chicago in 1920, while his wife Mary passed away in 1913
When Mary died in 1913, an obituary notice was printed in a Chicago paper listing the surviving Children  - William was one of them.

My issue is that I have found no trace at all of William after his birth registration and baptism in 1865! I know the fate of all his siblings to 1913 - but not his.

He may have gone to the US with the rest of the family, or he was old enough to have remained in Ireland.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 May 24 17:02 BST (UK) »
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He may have gone to the US with the rest of the family,

Can you account for the rest of them on passenger lists? 
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 May 24 17:12 BST (UK) »
There's a William Crean born 15 Nov 1865 who arrived 23 Apr 1887 per US Naturalization Records Index - occupation driver

Whereabouts in Chicago did the family live?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 May 24 17:59 BST (UK) »
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He may have gone to the US with the rest of the family,

Can you account for the rest of them on passenger lists?

No. There is an obituary notice for a son, John Crean, in Chicago 1885, recently arrived from Ireland.
Must have come over in dribs and drabs.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 May 24 18:04 BST (UK) »
There's a William Crean born 15 Nov 1865 who arrived 23 Apr 1887 per US Naturalization Records Index - occupation driver

Whereabouts in Chicago did the family live?

That isn't William's actual birthday. Not usually that meaningful, but his brother Richard did know his exact birthday.

The 1890 US census does not survive. By 1900 many had gone their own way
- In 1900 Aidan Peter and wife were living with a married daughter Josephine in W. Division St.
- Son, Richard was off in the Philippines, fighting the Spanish-American war.
- Son Joseph
- Two other daughters were married in Chicago - William not with them
- Others all dead
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 May 24 18:26 BST (UK) »
Death notice for Mary Redmond in 1913
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 May 24 18:45 BST (UK) »
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 May 24 19:01 BST (UK) »
This might just be a coincidence there is a death for a
William A Crane
10 February 1935
Cook County Illinois
It gives his birth date as 8 Jan 1865 Wexford Ireland
Wrong parents names maybe the person registering the death was unsure
Father William
Mother Collins
Both parents born Wexford

I noticed the baptism for William Crean
Baptism date 8 January 1865 Wexford
Father Aiden Creen
Mother Mary Redmond

There is a record on findagrave William Aden Crane

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Re: What Happened to William Crean, 1865 to After 1913?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 May 24 19:30 BST (UK) »
This might just be a coincidence there is a death for a
William A Crane
10 February 1935
Cook County Illinois
It gives his birth date as 8 Jan 1865 Wexford Ireland
Wrong parents names maybe the person registering the death was unsure
Father William
Mother Collins
Both parents born Wexford

I noticed the baptism for William Crean
Baptism date 8 January 1865 Wexford
Father Aiden Creen
Mother Mary Redmond

There is a record on findagrave William Aden Crane

Rosie

Well, that is very interesting, if confusing.
The 8-Jan-1865 baptism is of course that of the William I am researching.

And then to see that same date on the death registration of William "Crane", with parents born Wexford. But both parents names completely wrong.

I think it must be him, despite the difference/error in parents names.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area