Black Troops during WW2 in Britain

[CultureHealingCommunities]

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t7g/

Thank you for this.
We do know that website, we even asked their permission to quote it on the website we are preparing, but we were told that they do not wish to have any part quoted or referred to.

[CultureHealingCommunities]

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t7h/

Hello, thank you for this.
We do know about this website and this event, which was one of the most deplorable events involving Black American troops in Britain. We also know quite well Professor Rice, he was kind enough to support our project since we started our research 18 months ago.

[dobfarm]

Hi again,

Which black troops (As you call them) do you mean, members of the British troops, American troops, or Commonwealth forces troops and associated allied counties in occupation who solders managed to get to GT Britain before their counties were occupied by Hitler. (Like Polish or French troops etc)

Hello, thank you for this.
Due to the high number of people involved, we are beginning this research with African-American military and Caribbean/African forces from the Colonies. As this is an initial project, and we have no funds, except for our meagre pockets, we will have to go slowly and then progress to the Indian troops.
It highly depends on the help we have from the community, like RootsChat, maybe we will be lucky enough to have people trusting us with their stories. Everything will remain anonymous and confidential, until we have people's consent to quote them.
I am asking everybody on Roots Chat to help us, old geezers, to have people's testimonies and cases, so we can launch a website more dedicated to individuals' experiences than to history per se.
Thank you

First African (mostly descendants of African Cotton slaves) American troops have been well researched with TV documentaries made over the years, also the indigenous native Indians also served in the USA forces in WW2, even using their native language to send messages as US native Indian spearhead troops at the front of location positions of targets for the native Indian gunners to fire in the Japan pacific theatre of war and there should plenty of research out there. The racism was more in American south relating back to the USA civil war days than in England or UK and we got it more here in the 1960's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud-DjdH1qpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3rnCPeKBwg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNDh9uLrFXE

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[CultureHealingCommunities]

Hello, thank you very much for the incredible effort you have made.
Unfortunately, and after seeing the videos and the search page, none of them has any link to our research, which is the Black troops in the areas of Yorkshire or Northumberland during WW2, between 1942 and 1944.
This is a global scale, and yes, we have found many, many documents, going through the archives.
Except for the areas North of England.
All it's gone, and, apparently, nobody remembers them, which makes me very sad.
There are no articles, even in newspapers, libraries, etc.
And none of the Black Veterans groups or associations replied to our appeal.

[dobfarm]

Hello, thank you very much for the incredible effort you have made.
Unfortunately, and after seeing the videos and the search page, none of them has any link to our research, which is the Black troops in the areas of Yorkshire or Northumberland during WW2, between 1942 and 1944.
This is a global scale, and yes, we have found many, many documents, going through the archives.
Except for the areas North of England.
All it's gone, and, apparently, nobody remembers them, which makes me very sad.
There are no articles, even in newspapers, libraries, etc.
And none of the Black Veterans groups or associations replied to our appeal.

Hi Again,

First - a lot people who would have remember them will have died or to old to remember or those who do remember will be very few or thin on the ground so to speak, who are still alive, genealogy repositories, archives, some associations have what they call "the Gov 100 year rules" (UK rules though more info seems to be gradually to be letting out info like the 1939 register as time goes on. ) only very limited information is let out to the general public  and most ancestry web sites don't talk about living people (Rootschat very much included ) is the main reason that some of the WW2 troops of all races and general civilian public could be still alive. You may have more luck in the USA and hence we are limited to what we can do to help you on this website in your groups quest.

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 I have remember another occasion, though the father may have not been an American G I troop, though the timing is right, my brother born 1944 is 6 years older than me, one of mates same age as a teenager at school in Huddersfield in the 1960's was an half cast coloured skin as they were called them days with no racism towards him. He was just Ricky.

(Though it nothing to do with this but worth a mention, being a pensioner with a free bus [Though I have a car] travel on the local bus network for days out, traveling home many times when school kids are going home also teenage collage students and the skin colour [ Asian, White, African. Chinese] has absolutely no meaning what so ever and just all known by their first names)

 

[CultureHealingCommunities]

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Thank you, you are right, many people have now disappeared, this is why we have been asking people to share with us stories and memories. It will eventually disappear. Unfortunately, it seems there isn't much to share. Reality is, there were military sites in places like Hull, Chester-le-Street, Haltwhistle, Newcastle.
All gone.
There are more organisations related to records than weeds in garden.
Records are gone.
There are thousands of photographs related to the WW2.
Only a handful show Black military, none the areas up North.
There are dedicated spaces, including cemeteries.
No descendant or family tell us about the veteran deceased.
There are military organisations and archives.
These years after the WW2 weren't enough to work and digitise to make them available to people that seek information.
Ultimately, like in so many things in life, it has to be the individual to come forward.

[dobfarm]

There would  be little  racism  towards these black troop here ! but the USA white troops and the army authority would have !! to a point ! have tried to segregate them - although they needed them in action and they did better than expected. Having said the afore, records of the white G I's will be a bit thin on the ground as well, as all the USA troops were scattered around England for a short time for training before the D Day 1944 invasion of Normandy and on to Germany.

I think! try finding the descendants of the black troops in the USA through ancestry and to hear past down stories by their families (As to where billeted in England) is your best bet.   ~ ?

[AlanBoyd]

from reply #19

We do know that website, we even asked their permission to quote it on the website we are preparing, but we were told that they do not wish to have any part quoted or referred to.

I don’t understand this – do they not understand what the internet is? If they have published something online then it can be used, with attribution of course.

[CultureHealingCommunities]

from reply #19

We do know that website, we even asked their permission to quote it on the website we are preparing, but we were told that they do not wish to have any part quoted or referred to.

I don’t understand this – do they not understand what the internet is? If they have published something online then it can be used, with attribution of course.

we always make a point of asking permission, besides the quotes and references, I think that they may have been a bit burned due to unscrupulous people, but that is fine, we will just include a link for the website, as it is important to have a reference for good community work.
We had almost 2.200 hours until now of research , in the UK and the US, we have found many documents that will be available with the links and references, and, hopefully, be the first step to trigger people's memories.