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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 May 24 14:46 BST (UK) »
My father was in the RAF and at some point had a conversation with some USAF officers.  They were very dismissive of black personnel in their forces.  The British officers were not impressed by their attitude.

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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 May 24 15:46 BST (UK) »
My father was in the RAF and at some point had a conversation with some USAF officers.  They were very dismissive of black personnel in their forces.  The British officers were not impressed by their attitude.
Molly, White American military have done dreadful things to the Black ones, and tried to bully several British people. I think they had some surprises, British people do not take well on being bullied into racist situations.

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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #11 on: Monday 27 May 24 16:24 BST (UK) »
There's a lot of info on black americans over here in the war..Some of the stories are from personal experince with the black soldiers.
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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #12 on: Monday 27 May 24 17:34 BST (UK) »
There's a lot of info on black americans over here in the war..Some of the stories are from personal experince with the black soldiers.
I am trying to go through posts, to see if any are part of the areas of inclusion.
If you find any, could you please send me the link?
Thank you very much!
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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 May 24 08:05 BST (UK) »
I remember my mother telling me about a lady she met at the local shop, who she spoke to, her son who had very dark skin with black curly hair, telling mum she go £2 for him in WW2 and times were hard. so they did anything to make money to survive.
 
Anyway this leads me think there was black troops billeted in the Huddersfield area of Yorkshire England where mum lived then in 1944 ish
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 May 24 12:33 BST (UK) »
I remember my mother telling me about a lady she met at the local shop, who she spoke to, her son who had very dark skin with black curly hair, telling mum she go £2 for him in WW2 and times were hard. so they did anything to make money to survive.
 
Anyway this leads me think there was black troops billeted in the Huddersfield area of Yorkshire England where mum lived then in 1944 ish
Hello, thank you for this. There is no certainty about numbers, but there were around 2.000 mixed race children that were the result of relationships between British women and African-American troops, from 1943/1944 onwards.
Only a very tiny percentage were accepted by the British family, and almost all suffered a lot due to racism, from the family and from the society.
Either they were abandoned to an orphanages, that were dedicated to children that would be 'impossible to find a family', like disabled children.
They were so many that there are documents recording conversations between the American and the British Governments, regarding 'the mixed-race children problem.'
Unlike their White counterparts, the Black soldiers could face a military tribunal and be arrested with they had relationships and children with White women.
They were also forbidden to take their brides or girlfriends to America, and those that paid a lot of money under the table to take them, were ostracised in America, many beaten and the British women were neither accepted by White people or by Black people.
There are several records of documents calling British women 'sluts and low lives' because they were caught in relationships with Black military.
Despite so many mixed-race children, only a small percentage is known to go forward trying to find their American families, their British families or both, and books, TV programs and websites could only find a handful of people, altogether.
And although there were several in Yorkshire, Northumberland and other surrounding areas, none has contacted us, despite our constant appeals, where we just wanted to ask some questions and keep them absolutely anonymous and confidential.
Maybe one day :)

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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 28 May 24 13:02 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

Which black troops (As you call them) do you mean, members of the British troops, American troops, or Commonwealth forces troops and associated allied counties in occupation who solders managed to get to GT Britain before their counties were occupied by Hitler. (Like Polish or French troops etc)

Hello, thank you for this.
Due to the high number of people involved, we are beginning this research with African-American military and Caribbean/African forces from the Colonies. As this is an initial project, and we have no funds, except for our meagre pockets, we will have to go slowly and then progress to the Indian troops.
It highly depends on the help we have from the community, like RootsChat, maybe we will be lucky enough to have people trusting us with their stories. Everything will remain anonymous and confidential, until we have people's consent to quote them.
I am asking everybody on Roots Chat to help us, old geezers, to have people's testimonies and cases, so we can launch a website more dedicated to individuals' experiences than to history per se.
Thank you

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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 May 24 14:14 BST (UK) »
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Re: Black Troops during WW2 in Britain
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 May 24 14:14 BST (UK) »
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