James Campbell b: Kilkenny, Ireland

[Neale1961]

Have you acquired the records for the other children born to Robert and Janet to see what information, if any, it gives you?

CAMPBELL,  WILLIAM
parents - ROBERT CAMPBELL OR MACARLISHICICALISTER JANET BANTON          SEE ENT
M
30/11/1804
048
10 / 99
DURNESS

CAMPBELL, JANET
ROBERT CAMPBELL/JANET BANTON FR 118 (FR118)
F
18/11/1810
048
10 / 113
DURNESS

[Isabel Griggs]

Thanks for your response.
Yes, I have.

1) 1804 -Births 048 / Durness, Page 99 of 184.
Robert Campbell, alias Macarlishicicalister, Soldier, and Janet Banton from Glasgow or thereabout, had William baptised on the 30th of Nov. Janet Roberts, wife sponsor.
 The document was given to me by a lady helping me on Scotland Genealogy site. 28 Apr 2024 She found this entry when she went to Inverness History House.

2)Parish Register of Durness-Baptism 1764-1814, Page 48, No. 20-1804
 Robert Campbell, alias Macarlishicicalister, and Janet, Betty Banton from Glasgow or thereabout, Janet 30 Nov. I thought this may be a mistake, I believe that they saw the name Janet on William's birth entry and wrote that name. There is no Parish Register of Durness-Baptism 1764-1814 entry for William.

3) Parish Register of Durness.-Baptism 1764-1814, Page56, No. 23-1810
 Robert Campbell, out-pensioner of Chelsea Hospital, and .... Janet Banton (from Glasgow or thereabout), in Durin, Janet 18 Nov.

4) I have been told that there is a son Charles Campbell 1816 as well, but I have not found the birth entry yet.

Many thanks again.
Isabel

[Neale1961]

I would recommend taking a look at these Chelsea Pensioner records for Robert Campbell. His discharge date of 1808 coincides with information from those two children’s births in 1804 and 1810.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8896544

Remember that not all information on death certificates is correct. His regiment may not have been remembered correctly, and of course soldiers were moved between regiments and often served with a number of different regiments.

[Neale1961]

4) I have been told that there is a son Charles Campbell 1816 as well, but I have not found the birth entry yet.

It is available from Scotlands People, although the mother’s name is not recorded on the index. For the very small cost, it would be worth getting to see what more information you can acquire.

[Isabel Griggs]

Thanks Neale, I appreciate the link. I will certainly that a look.
I totally agree with you, death certificate information was not always correct. You are right. I have focused on the 89th regiment 🤔

I will have a look for Charles Campbell 1816 on SP when I get a chance. I have credits. I hope I find him.

Many thanks,
Isabel

[Neale1961]

Isabel, Do you have the record of Robert Campbell's first marriage to Katherine? What information does it give, if any?

Quick piece of info: Janet "Betty" Banton was reportedly from GlasgowThere is no record of a birth or marriage of a Banton in 1770 -1800, or of a "Benton" in Glasgow in the same period, which is why I favour her name actually being Bannatyne.

There are Bunton / Benton / Barton surnames in Lanarkshire in the relevant time period.

[Isabel Griggs]

Hi Neale,
Here is the record that I have.
Parish Register of Durness -Marriage 1764-1814 Page 66, No. 8- 1783
Robert Campbell, alias Macarlishmhicalister, in Saingo... Catharine Campbell, alias Grange, in Keoldale 5 Dec.
Thanks,
Isabel

[Isabel Griggs]

I would recommend taking a look at these Chelsea Pensioner records for Robert Campbell. His discharge date of 1808 coincides with information from those two children’s births in 1804 and 1810.

Thank you so much for the link. I found two records for Robert Campbell
ROBERT CAMPBELL Born DURNESS, Sutherland Served in 72nd Foot Regiment; 78th Foot Regiment Discharged aged...
Royal Hospital, Chelsea: Discharge Documents of Pensioners. Certificates of Service (disability or reason for discharge, length of service, rank, regiment, age, place of birth and... ROBERT CAMPBELL Born DURNESS, Sutherland Served in 72nd Foot Regiment; 78th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 50 after 23 years 1 month of service.
Date:   1808

And yes, it does fit with the children being born 1804 and 1810.
Now, I just have to find James his son who was born in Ireland.

Much appreciated,
Isabel

[djct59]

Neale/Isabel

That's helpful. Counting back from 1808 fifty years gives a birthdate in 1758 as expected. That predates the parish register by six years.

All we know of Janet Banton/Benton etc is that she was from "Glasgow or thereabout", which could easily cover most of North Lanarkshire and perhaps some of Dunbartonshire.