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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 11 May 24 16:43 BST (UK) »
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 11 May 24 17:21 BST (UK) »
Quote from: scarlett0017 on Saturday 11 May 24 00:56 BST (UK)

Thomas O Brien/Brien =
Birth: April 6 1873 Dunganstown, Wicklow.
Marriage: 12 AUG 1894 Ashford, Wicklow, Ireland.
Death: February 2 1957 Glenealy, Wicklow.


From your details, this would be the corresponding death registration in 1957 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1957/04402/4146211.pdf

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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 11 May 24 17:29 BST (UK) »
Quote from: scarlett0017 on Saturday 11 May 24 00:56 BST (UK)

Bridget Mary Redmond =
Birth ABT 1873 Kilnamanagh Beg, Wicklow.
Marriage: 12 AUG 1894 Ashford, Wicklow, Ireland.
Death 26/08/1946 Coolnakilly, Wicklow, Ireland.


The corresponding registration would be this one here https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1946/04600/4218893.pdf

I would question if it was the correct entry for Bridget given she is showing on this as the wife of a Pensioner. We don't have anything for Thomas that implies a military life  :-\

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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 11 May 24 19:26 BST (UK) »
Suspect 'pensioner' means Old Age Pension rather than a military one.
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 11 May 24 19:26 BST (UK) »
Quote from: MonicaL on Saturday 11 May 24 17:29 BST (UK)
Quote from: scarlett0017 on Saturday 11 May 24 00:56 BST (UK)

Bridget Mary Redmond =
Birth ABT 1873 Kilnamanagh Beg, Wicklow.
Marriage: 12 AUG 1894 Ashford, Wicklow, Ireland.
Death 26/08/1946 Coolnakilly, Wicklow, Ireland.


The corresponding registration would be this one here https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1946/04600/4218893.pdf

I would question if it was the correct entry for Bridget given she is showing on this as the wife of a Pensioner. We don't have anything for Thomas that implies a military life  :-\

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Nothing in that death registration implies a military life.
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 11 May 24 20:06 BST (UK) »
Scarlett0017,
I think you mentioned you have a photo of Leo. I saw one in a tree which was from a group photo of some of the siblings, I think.
Did anyone in the family ever speak of Peter? I know it痴 a long time now but just wondered.
Peter may have been baptised with a second name or just decided to change, if we are correct in the assumption that Peter is Leo.
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 11 May 24 20:39 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Wexflyer on Saturday 11 May 24 19:26 BST (UK)

Nothing in that death registration implies a military life.

It is only in more recent times that the word pensioner implies almost entirely old age. Previously many ex servicemen were given 'pensions' when they left the army or navy, perhaps because they had been wounded or because they were no longer needed during peacetime.

Maybe by the 1950s, the word pensioner did only refer to old age. I don't know.

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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 11 May 24 21:03 BST (UK) »
The Old Age Pension was passed in Ireland in 1908 (first payments in Jan.1909) and originally a claimant had to be 70 years of age. From then on the term pensioner was applied to not just those with a military pension but also those receiving the State benefit.
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 11 May 24 21:21 BST (UK) »
What do you all think of this? Is there more than one Peter or is he the one here.
Wicklow People, July 1944
Marriage announcement
At St Teilo痴 Church, Cardiff
Peter, youngest son of Mr and Mrs O達rien, Coolnakilly to Ethel Morrissey, Cork

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Death 1945
Ethel O達rien, 27yrs, Cardiff
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