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Topic: Year of Birth but no record. (Read 12535 times)
scarlett0017
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
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Reply #18 on:
Wednesday 08 May 24 18:03 BST (UK) »
Well i'm no maths professor, so i won't be judging anyone
But i did find some pretty big age gaps for some of the family members, maybe it wasn't judged back then as much as it is now.
But i'm still a bit suspicious about it.
heywood
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
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Reply #19 on:
Wednesday 08 May 24 18:30 BST (UK) »
Did he have children?
Do you have his death?
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Sinann
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
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Wednesday 08 May 24 18:31 BST (UK) »
Just occurred to me, 1922/1923 was a point of major change in Ireland, War of Independence coming to an end Civil War starting. This wouldn’t be the first birth cert not found for this period, my grandparents married at this time, no marriage cert.
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Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
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Wednesday 08 May 24 21:18 BST (UK) »
Just a thought. I wonder if Leo was not a first name but perhaps a middle name that doesn't show on the birth registration?
Also, when brother Patrick Joseph married Mary O'Shaughnessy in 1936 (can't see it on
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie
to post the link) one of the witnesses was a Leo O'Brien. Brother or relative? With a possible birth year of 1923, that would make brother 13 in 1936. Unlikely.
Maybe Leo's birth year could be earlier than c. 1923? Last birth found was for a son Peter in 1919.
Monica
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MonicaL
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Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
Re: Year of Birth but no record.
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Wednesday 08 May 24 21:29 BST (UK) »
Just for comparison of signatures for the Leo who was a witness to the marriage of Patrick Joseph and then seven years later, Leo's signature on the marriage register for his wedding.
The same or totally different?
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Sinann
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Wednesday 08 May 24 21:39 BST (UK) »
That’s the registrar’s writing, it’s a copy of information into the Register Office books.
MonicaL
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Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
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Reply #24 on:
Wednesday 08 May 24 21:47 BST (UK) »
Like many a register entry on Scotlands People too
So no comparison possible then. Just curious, Sinann, how can you tell that this is a copy register entry? Scottish certs will include for example '(signed)' where the signatures are on the copy entry confirming that it is not the original signature (apart from the fact that all the writing is same being the clerk's writing).
A Leo O'Brien was also a witness at another O'Brien son, Anthony, who also married in 1936
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08925/5228247.pdf
See corrected link below.
Monica
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aghadowey
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Re: Year of Birth but no record.
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Reply #25 on:
Wednesday 08 May 24 21:53 BST (UK) »
Is the 1936 witness not John O'Brien rather than Leo O'Brien?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for
some time
many years!
MonicaL
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Girl with firewood, Morar 1910 - MEM Donaldson
Re: Year of Birth but no record.
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Reply #26 on:
Wednesday 08 May 24 21:56 BST (UK) »
Posted for the wrong Anthony. Sorry
Let me find the other Anthony's entry and will add.
In the meantime, this Leo who shows as witness was obviously the family's official witness at marriages
He also shows as witness to the marriage of daughter Mary Ann O'Brien
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1942/08800/5181285.pdf
Monica
ADDED: The correct link for Anthony's marriage in 1936
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08925/5228309.pdf
Thanks for pointing out my slip up, aghadowey
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