Ancestry of David Harris (1857-?) of Llanddarog

[1982FordEscort]

Hello, I am trying to trace the ancestry of David Harris, born on 1 May 1857 to William Harris and Lettice Lloyd in Llanddarog, according to his birth certificate. I cannot find a marriage record for William and Lettice.

I would like to go further back on his parents' lines but am struggling to locate him in early life census records, even allowing for spelling variations. I found Lettice's baptism record showing she was born on 13 January 1836 to William Lloyd and Anne Lewis in Llangendeirne.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jack

[Cas (stallc)]

Do you have him on any census to confirm which is yours? Any wife, children, occupation etc in later years?

It is a fairly common name, further info may help

Cas

[1982FordEscort]

He married Ann Howells on 17 November 1877 and had at least 3 children, Elizabeth around 1879, Mary around 1881, and William in 1883.

I've found him in the 1891 and 1901 censuses.

[Ladyhawk]

I am trying to trace the ancestry of David Harris, born on 1 May 1857 to William Harris and Lettice Lloyd in Llanddarog, according to his birth certificate.

 I cannot find a marriage record for William and Lettice.

What was his father’s occupation on birth certificate record and was there a street name in Llanddarog?

He married Ann Howells on 17 November 1877 and had at least 3 children, Elizabeth around 1879, Mary around 1881, and William in 1883.

I've found him in the 1891 and 1901 censuses.

Is this the 1891 census

Piece   4486
Folio   7
Page number   8
Neath Rd Llansamlet
David Harris 34 Head coal mine fire man (dittoed born Llansamlet)
Ann Harris 43 Wife
Elizabeth Harris   12   Daughter Llansamlet
Mary Harris 10 Daughter Llansamlet
William Harris 8 Son Llansamlet

[CaroleW]

1881 entry shows birthplace as Bettws, Carmarthenshire

[JACK GEE]

Very interested in this thread for a number of reasons.
The names Howells and Harris appear in the William Cecil Lord Burghley FTDNA Project.
My research also has Lloyd attachments.
See following threads for your interest.
Mary Howells.bc.1778.d.?.m.5.11.1799LLandydie Walter LLOYD

John HOWELLS.b.1822Vowchurch.Bapt.26.8.1822.Vowchurch.d.1897Bettws,near Abergavenny.Buried PatricioChurchyard.                    
m.Emma LLOYD.b.1827.Colva/Gladestry,Radnoreshire.d.1888.Bettws.                  

Happy to explore options - good luck on your David Harris hunt.

Cheers
Jack Gee

[1982FordEscort]

Is this the 1891 census

Piece   4486
Folio   7
Page number   8
Neath Rd Llansamlet
David Harris 34 Head coal mine fire man (dittoed born Llansamlet)
Ann Harris 43 Wife
Elizabeth Harris   12   Daughter Llansamlet
Mary Harris 10 Daughter Llansamlet
William Harris 8 Son Llansamlet

Yes, that is the 1891 census for him.

[1982FordEscort]

I am trying to trace the ancestry of David Harris, born on 1 May 1857 to William Harris and Lettice Lloyd in Llanddarog, according to his birth certificate.

 I cannot find a marriage record for William and Lettice.

What was his father’s occupation on birth certificate record and was there a street name in Llanddarog?

His father, William, was a coal miner.

I can't quite make out the place name above Llanddarog, looks like Pontawel??

[Ladyhawk]

 I found Lettice's baptism record showing she was born on 13 January 1836 to William Lloyd and Anne Lewis in Llangendeirne.

On her baptism father William occupation farmer

Lettice Lloyd
Birth Date   13 Jan 1836   Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Baptism 20 Mar 1836 Abergwilly, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Denomination   Calvinistic Methodist
Father   Wm Lloyd Mother    Anne Lewis

I can’t find a marriage to  David Harris  Nor can I find the family on 1861 census - Perhaps they didn’t marry ?

Is this Lettice on 1851 census?

Lettice Lloyd Age 16 born   Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales, servant
Civil Parish or Township   Llandefeilog
Town   Scyborfawr Carmarthenshire
Sub-registration district   Llangendeirne
Piece   2472
Folio   305
Page number   14

Have you seen this 1881 census entry could this be Lettice with her mother ?

Lettuce Davies Age   45  born   Llangendeirne, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish   Llanelly
Street Address   28 Panteg Row
Condition as to marriage   Married
Piece   5375
Folio   92
Page number   7
Household Members
David Davies 48 Head occ  Railway (Ry Lab)
Ann Lloyd 79 Mother in Law Llandyfeilog, Carmarthenshire

Looks as if they married 1860

Letitia Lloyd age 21
Marriage 26 Oct 1860 St Trinity Church Felinfoel Llanelly
Father William Lloyd , farmer
Spouse David Davies 21 cc block layer father Daniel, gardener
Both made their mark, abode Felinfoel