Alfred Hughes dob 1843 parramatta or liverpool dod 1903 mt gravatt qld

[JANICELEEDALE]

Greeings oh wise ones. Again I have searched all I can to find the birth records for Alfred. F Richard (convict) Hughes Mary Margaret Gleeson (?).

Any advice appreciated.

Cheers TIA

[QueenoftheWest]

The moderator has kindly moved this to the Australia board.

For reference, here is the entry for Alfred in the Australia, Death Index:
Name: Alfred Hughes
Death Date: 22 Apr 1903
Death Place: Queensland
Father: Richard Hughes
Mother: Margaret Gleeson

And his headstone:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/186300223/alfred-hughes

Queenie 

[CassT]

there is another post for this family.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=864745.0

if you read the other post might save doing searches already completed for the family

regards
Cass

[JANICELEEDALE]

Thank you for moderator moving my post.

Queenie, thank you for all your work. I am looking for 'proof' e.g. birth cert entry or bdm. I can't in it down. J

[sparrett]

Hi Janice,
If you click on the link given above by Cass T, you will see 2 pages of responses to your original post.

Maybe after you have read them and given thought, you might like to suggest any other information you are seeking and perhaps we can be of  help.


Post here, not on the other thread. .

Sue

[Dundee]

Civil registration of births, deaths and marriages did not start in NSW until 1856 so before that you are relying on finding a church record of baptism, marriage or burial.  Not all children were baptised and not all church records have survived or have been made available to the Registry for indexing.

https://www.nsw.gov.au/family-and-relationships/family-history-search/registry-records

Debra 

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Looking at his parents gravestone
Mary Margaret Hughes nee Gleeson born 1830 Nenagh, County Tipperary, Ireland
died 11.10.1866.
Richard Hughes born 1800 England died 6.11.1874
Elder brother Clifford born 1841.

Given there is a Richard Hughes convict transported 1830 on the Cumberland from Kent I'd go for this.


Richard seems to have married Charlotte Botten 2.7.1826 Frinsted.
Children - Anne 3.6.1827 Frinsted  and Clifford 14.6.1829 at Lenham.

The children are with Thomas Hughs and Anne nee Clifford married 4.8.1805 Maidstone on the 1841 census at Frinsted.
I'm guessing Richard was their son from before their marriage in 1805.

The parish records for Nenagh Couthy Tipperrary start 1831  but it's a place to start.


Ciderdrinker

[shume]

If Mary Margaret Gleeson (mother) born 1830 and Alfred Hughes born 1843,(as you state) that seems to be incorrect and makes her 30 years younger than husband Richard and only 13 when she had Alfred!
shume  australia

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Yes sorry about that .I went with the transcription on Find a grave
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/150138326/mary-margaret-hughes

However they are all on the same gravestone and her age can't be right because son Clifford is given as born 1839 .Trouble is ,the first digit of her age at death is so worn it's difficult to tell.
She *6 years old in 1866.
So given son Clifford born 1839 her year of birth has to be 1820,1810 ,1800.

Looking at another data set Sydney, Australia, Cemetery Headstone Transcriptions, 1837-2003 on Ancestry it says 56.
Clifford Thomas  Henry was baptised 26 Dec 1841 birth date May 25th Liverpool St Luke Sydney so that doesn't quite match up either. (Clifford's entrance to Darlinghurst jail in July 1860 also says age 20 so born 1840).

Ciderdrinker