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Re: Please help! Birth certificate request
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:01 BST (UK) »
Makes you wonder if the surname was fictiious.  The occupation wouldn't fit if he were a silversmith
(think I read that earlier)  ?  Keeping an open mind Lisa.
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« Reply #28 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:04 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Nekm88 on Saturday 06 April 24 21:28 BST (UK)


I have found a 2nd-3rd cousin match for my mother on ancestry. (I have yet to take a test) the cousin match has a paternal grandmother with the name Mabel Annie Smith.

No good with DNA, never had reason to do that.  Does this refer to the next generation line or a previous generation line.  ??
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« Reply #29 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:08 BST (UK) »
I believe she is saying her mother has a 2nd to 3rd cousin match with someone.  But, it doesn’t mean that they were only cousins.  Be right back…
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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« Reply #30 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:14 BST (UK) »
I’m experiencing a lot of internet problems tonight.  It takes forever to load sites and now I’m having trouble copying…

2-3 cousin also includes a match between her mother and someone else that could also be a 1st cousin, 1 time removed

and now my Ancestry screen is blank.  There are a few options for 2nd-3rd. 

I’m going to close sites, turn off my iPad and will come back shortly.  Very frustrating.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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« Reply #31 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:18 BST (UK) »

Could that be a child of a brother ?
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« Reply #32 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:19 BST (UK) »
2nd cousin could also be
“1st cousin 2x removed
Half 1st cousin 1x removed
Half great-granduncle
Half great-grandnephew”
  Source: Ancestry

There were three other examples of 2nd and 3rd cousin definitions but I don’t know if I am allowed to post their examples.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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« Reply #33 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:22 BST (UK) »
I’m not sure.

Be back in a few moments…we need to clean up a mess our cat made.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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« Reply #34 on: Sunday 07 April 24 06:35 BST (UK) »
Malcolm Alexander Smith born 1904)

Father Malcolm Davidson Smith  1873 - 1944  (Maybe 6 children and one died infancy - Malcolm had one brother 4 sister)

Malcom Alexander Smith brother was :

Duncan Norman Stark Smith
born 27 February 1909 - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
died 02 December 1987 - Toronto, Ontario.  (Haven't managed to find obit - think he had two children - male and female)

Grandfather Malcolm Smith born 1848 Glasgow died 1893 Toronto - Iron Moulder -
Malcom Smith 1849 Scotland - 29 January 1893 York Ontario  (aged 44 years)
Religion   Presbyterian
Cause of Death   Emphysema of Lungs Complicated.

spouse - Barbara Faichnie
born 9 January 1850 - Scotland - died 19 August 1923 - Toronto, Ontario.
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« Reply #35 on: Sunday 07 April 24 08:50 BST (UK) »
I haven’t found anything yet…

Searched for
Malcolm Smith/Smythe, born c1902 in Ontario
Mabel Annie Smith in Toronto
Smith, silversmith, Ontario, c1930
Malcom, silversmith, Ontario, c1930
Malcolm Maclellan Smith immigrating 1930s

I’ll try to think of other ways search.  Perhaps others may have suggestions.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)
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