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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 07 April 24 19:16 BST (UK) »

I'll see if there are any baptismal records...


Yes, there are corresponding baptisms, according to the transcripts:

- Mary Josephine McKinley was baptised in St. Peter's Belfast on 8 April 1886 for parents John McKinley and Anne McKinley of 9 Blackwater Street, the sponsor was Margaret Madden;

- John James McKinley was baptised in St. Paul's Belfast on 21 October 1888 for mother Annie McKinley of 9 Blackwater Street, the name of the father was not given, the sponsor was Margaret Madden;

- Catherine McKinley was baptised in St. Peter's Belfast on 21 May 1891 for parents James McKinley and Ann McKinley of 3 Fifth Street, the sponsor was Margaret Madden.


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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 07 April 24 19:40 BST (UK) »
That must be the children's entries, Gaffy. Well done on finding those  ;)

Hard and confusing searches with all the varying surnames etc. Margaret Madden features strongly in those entries. Struggle to see her so far on the 1901 census.

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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #74 on: Sunday 07 April 24 20:54 BST (UK) »
Any chance this could be Margaret Madden in 1901 or is the fact she was born Co. Monaghan just co-incidence?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Adela_Street/960101/
Edward Madden's sister Ellen died 1921-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05086/4395940.pdf
Marriage of Edward Madden (father Edward, farmer) & Margaret (nurse)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10799/5938629.pdf
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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #75 on: Sunday 07 April 24 21:56 BST (UK) »
Any chance this could be Margaret Madden in 1901 or is the fact she was born Co. Monaghan just co-incidence?

The first baptism is 1886, and that Margaret didn't marry a Madden until the following year.  The occupation "nurse" would have been great, though.... I was wondering if Margaret could have been the local midwife.

A question..... would not have John James, Kathleen, and Mary, at some point in their lives, needed to show birth registration? 


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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #76 on: Sunday 07 April 24 22:47 BST (UK) »
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A question..... would not have John James, Kathleen, and Mary, at some point in their lives, needed to show birth registration?
Quite possibly not.
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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #77 on: Monday 08 April 24 23:44 BST (UK) »

- Catherine McKinley was baptised in St. Peter's Belfast on 21 May 1891 for parents James McKinley and Ann McKinley of 3 Fifth Street, the sponsor was Margaret Madden.

This attached might be merely coincidental as McKee is such a common name.
It is from the Belfast News-Letter  dated 29 June 1891


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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 07:46 BST (UK) »
There are so many things happening and the links are not to far apart street wise with people who may be part of the past history of the Mc Cabe story. My wife and I are going to have a look at Donnybrook Street and other streets that were mentioned in the search for this story. That little paper clip is interesting as it gives a picture of people lodging in those houses. The strange changeing of a surname from Mc Kee to Mc Cabe over time has really puzzled us.  In the police record we got it describes Mc Cabe as 18 and a farmer ?? Is it possible to check out his family connections in Monaghan and where they buried him ? Thinking if maybe there are descendants still there who could shed some light on the story.
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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 07:53 BST (UK) »
My wife thinks that Margaret Madden was a midwife.
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Re: Mc Cabe family Rockville Street Belfast.
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 09 April 24 20:40 BST (UK) »
I've been working on this again and not much further forward but putting details found so far into chronological order does make sense of a few things, I think, so bear with me as it might take more than one post to write it all out.

c1867 Annie ‘McKinstry’ born (age according to death reg. 1936)

Missing Annie’s ‘marriage’ to John McKinley
1886, 3 Apr.- Mary McKinley born 9 Blackwater St. (mother- Annie McKinley, worker wareroom; informant- Margret Madden, 14 Ton St.** https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02606/1962500.pdf
1886, 8 Apr.- Mary Josephine McKinley bapt. St. Peter’s (parents- John & Anne McKinley, 9 Blackwater St., spons. Margaret Madden) **Note: Ton St., small houses, off McDonnell St.

1888, 3 Oct.- John James McKinley born 9 Blackwater St. (parents- James McKinley (fireman) & Annie formerly McKinstry; informant- Margaret Madden, 44 McDonnell St.**) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02498/1926689.pdf
1888, 21 Oct.- John James McKinley bapt. St. Paul’s (parents- Annie McKinley, 9 Blackwater St., spons. Margaret Madden)

1890 directory- https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/bcomplete1890.htm  (9 Blackwater St.) and https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/bcomplete1890.htm  (3 Fifth St.)- not at either address

1891, 18 May- Kathleen McKinley born 3 Fifth St. (mother- Annie McKinley (wareroom worker); informant- Margaret Madden, 50 McDonnell St.) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1891/02392/1892195.pdf
1891, 21 May- Catherine McKinley bapt. St. Peter’s (parents- James & Ann McKinley, 3 Fifth St., spons. Margaret Madden)
1891, 29 June- newspaper clipping- 3 Fifth St., house of Mrs. McKee mentions Margaret Madden (reply #77)

1893, 9 June- stillborn child of James & Annie McKee, 3 Fifth St. buried Belfast City Cemetery
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