Alice Kershaw Musk - Rawtenstall

[Road Runner]

Hello All,
Thank you all for your input. The problem is that there are several Elizabeth Musk's that married after the birth of Alice so knowing which one is Alice's mother, Elizabeth is unclear.

If I can discover where Elizabeth and Alice were between 1881 and 1901 then it may give a clue as to Elizabeth's age and place of birth.
Once again thanks to all for their input.
Regards

[heywood]

That’s what we are trying to do.
Have you followed the other Elizabeth Musks for any information?

The main link at the moment is that you say Alice was born in Lord Street. Who was the informant? Was it Elizabeth herself?
We then have the 1880 baptism of Amelia Musk's child - address Lord Street.

There is then the sighting of a Kershaw child who may/not be of relevance.

Hopefully, Alice’s marriage certificate may have some useful information.

[heywood]

Lancs opc marriages
August 1879
Thomas Henry Musk, 20 yrs, Lord Street - father Robert
Elizabeth Collinge

1883
Alfred Zachariah Musk , father William and Mary Ann Heap

1887
Ambrose Price and Amelia Musk - father Robert., Lord Street
A witness is Elizabeth Musk but could be Thomas’ wife (see above)

The one we have followed to Canada, married Henry Allen in 1878 at either at the Registrars or registrar attended the church wedding.
You would need the certificate to see if she is the daughter of Robert and sister to Amelia with Lord Street a possible connection.

The Canada passenger record has her as Eliza
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t3c/

[wilcoxon]

The 1901 census Canada has Elizabeth Allen born 3 November 1854
Birth registration Elizabeth Musk mmn Brook is Dec qtr 1854.

You need  birth and marriage certificates to confirm.
So far I found no deaths for Henry or Elizabeth in Canada.
They would give birth dates.

[heywood]

Robert Musk married Pamela Brooks in Newmarket, 1853

That places Elizabeth Musk Allen, we think, in the family who were living around Lord Street.

There were other Musk families around Newchurch from Cambridgeshire/Suffolk so perhaps all related.

[heywood]

1871 has these:

Eliza Musk abt 1862 - parents William and Emily
Elizabeth Ann Musk abt 1867 same parents
Elizabeth Musk abt 1866 - parents Fred and Sally

The younger ones could not be mother to Alice.

Robert and Pamela Musk (parents of Amelia and Elizabeth) are in Newchurch in1881.
Grandson, Frederick George was b in Rawtenstall in 1876 so family presumably moved 1871 - 1876.

[wilcoxon]

Lancs opc marriages
August 1879
Thomas Henry Musk, 20 yrs, Lord Street - father Robert
Elizabeth Collinge

WITNESSES BENJAMIN THOMAS HARGREAVES..AMELIA MUSK

1883
Alfred Zachariah Musk , father William and Mary Ann Heap

1887
Ambrose Price and Amelia Musk - father Robert., Lord Street
A witness is Elizabeth Musk but could be Thomas’ wife (see above)
FULL NAME ON ENTRY. AMELIA MARIA MUSK

[wilcoxon]

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01t3f/

Find a grave . Pamela Musk.
Read the flower tribute 🙂

[heywood]

Well fancy that!