John Curley of Tuam Galway

[SapereAude]

Before I saw yours, I was about to post that there was another John Curley born abt. 1855 in Galway, living in Oldham in 1881 (4071/119/74) and 1901 (5381/108/20), who was married to Ellen Newall.

So could they be relatives as Thomas Curley was living with John and Catharine in 1891? Cousins of some sort maybe?

I will order the Roach/Corless marriage cert, which should give more info on his father.

[heywood]

Yes, I wondered the same.
It would be good to see father’s name, occupation and witnesses. I do hope it helps.

[SapereAude]

Yes, I wondered the same.
It would be good to see father’s name, occupation and witnesses. I do hope it helps.

Hello again, I have received their marriage cert and John's father is James Corless, a farm labourer. The witnesses are James and Ellen Ridyard.

Thank you

[heywood]

Thank you. Trying to ‘tune in’ again.

Earlier I posted these baptisms.
“1884 Ellen Corless with Godparent, P Corless
1888  Francis Corless with Godparents Thomas Corless, Esther Corless”

Looking at godmother Esther (your family have a child Esther), there is this one’
 1891 3300/93
Patrick and Esther Corless with several children.

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Oldham/index.html

Shows some baptisms and mother is Esther Hanley/Handley

There is this marriage in Tuam 
1872 - Patrick Corless and  ‘Elizabeth’ Hanley.
His father is James and is alive at the time
 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11326/8156969.pdf

*unfortunately Esther, in 1911, gives ‘Kilkenny’ as her birthplace but the marriage was Tuam.

Now- there is a record 1841/51 census search forms.
Sadly, just ‘Ireland’
John Corless
Applicant
Father’s Name   James Corless
Mother’s Name   Catherine Brien
Residence Year   1851
Residence Place   Ireland
Street Address   No 3 Day Room, Union Workhouse, Oldham

So, John Corless of Oldham was trying to establish his origins - I think it may be for a pension.
It doesn’t seem to be confirmed but is annotated ‘wait to check for further correspondence’.
Would this fit with your John?

[heywood]

If this John and Patrick were your family, this would likely be the parish. As you can see though, the relevant baptism years are missing.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1061?locale=en

Added

I think the parish is more likely - Tuam than Dunmore
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1082?locale=en

[heywood]

Just to add that John and Catherine and Patrick and Esther were having children baptised in Farnworth around the same time.

[heywood]

Here is a very faint baptism record - Pat Corless, February 1853 - James and Catherine Brien.
It is on the right hand page
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632081?locale=en#page/74/mode/1up

If you have Ancestry it is easier to see as Carless.

I can’t see one for John though.

[SapereAude]

Now- there is a record 1841/51 census search forms.
Sadly, just ‘Ireland’
John Corless
Applicant
Father’s Name   James Corless
Mother’s Name   Catherine Brien
Residence Year   1851
Residence Place   Ireland
Street Address   No 3 Day Room, Union Workhouse, Oldham

So, John Corless of Oldham was trying to establish his origins - I think it may be for a pension.
It doesn’t seem to be confirmed but is annotated ‘wait to check for further correspondence’.
Would this fit with your John?

Thank you again heywood
I remember coming across this record a while ago but I couldn't link it to anyone then as I didn't have these names.
I will have a closer look at what you have found when I have some spare time.