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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #126 on: Sunday 25 February 24 20:22 GMT (UK) »

Not sure this will help but the mention  of Kent was interesting maybe. ??
Probably a red-herring.  :-\

U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960
(Bit scratchy to try and read  :-\)

Jane F Brown. Born 1870 Kent. England. (aged 40 years) Wid.
Last permanent address Brighton. No relations in country from whence came.
In transit - Arrival April 1910 
Port of Arrival   Portal, North Dakota.
Landed 27/09 Empress of Britain.

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #127 on: Sunday 25 February 24 20:48 GMT (UK) »
Cooking on gas again!  Need to check these further, but look at this.

I was looking for John F Brown in older directories but nothing, then started looking for Jeanette Caldwell in Lakeside, Chicago and one hint led to another, including William Caldwell, in Ancestry, Cook County Illinois marriage index:

William Caldwell
Age   32
Gender   Male
Birth Year   abt 1870
Marriage Type   Marriage
Marriage Date   19 Jun 1902
Marriage Place   Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse Name   Jeannette Ray
Spouse Age   29
Spouse Gender   Female
FHL Film Number   1030338

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #128 on: Sunday 25 February 24 21:04 GMT (UK) »

Not sure this will help but the mention  of Kent was interesting maybe. ??
Probably a red-herring.  :-\

U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960
(Bit scratchy to try and read  :-\)

Jane F Brown. Born 1870 Kent. England. (aged 40 years) Wid.
Last permanent address Brighton. No relations in country from whence came.
In transit - Arrival April 1910 
Port of Arrival   Portal, North Dakota.
Landed 27/09 Empress of Britain.

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Hmm. Also says final destination England.  Does that fit with anything we know?  Need to read this thread from start to finish again!
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #129 on: Monday 26 February 24 02:56 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find the addresses mentioned for Janet BROWN/CALDWELL and Helen CONNOR on the 1901 census. So far:

10 Burton Place seems to be a boarding house, no person of interest there.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XC4Q-1PH?

191 Schiller St, no person of interest. (Coincidnetally, there is a William CALDWELL a few doors down at 205 Schiller, with a family)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XC4Q-BJQ?


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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #130 on: Monday 26 February 24 03:23 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #131 on: Monday 26 February 24 11:38 GMT (UK) »
Just found James E Weirick death in England.

Sept qtr 1935 Age   73
Elham RD  Volume 2a Page   1318
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #132 on: Monday 26 February 24 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Time for a timeline!
On post 79 on p9 I put one together and now you've all discovered more facts, and so much more speculation. And I need a summary.

Chicago Tribune, South Bend Tribune, Milliner Trade Review, city directories of great use

Janet/Jeanette/Jane Isabell Weirick formerly Caldwell nee Brown
Daughter Ivy Isabel Caldwell – don’t know if she was daughter or stepdaughter? Says born in England.  Was she daughter of Janet and William Caldwell (possibly both English born) before they married, born Brown but taking the name Caldwell?  Or daughter of Janet and A N Other, taking the Caldwell surname on marriage?  Or William Caldwell’s daughter with A N Other in a previous marriage).

1909 Oct - earliest sighting of Ivy - in school records, acting in a play, in the USA.
1914 Aug – Chicago Tribune. Mrs Jane Caldwell of 413 Wrightwood Ave announces marriage of daughter Ivy to Goodman.  NB Not Mr & Mrs Caldwell. Is she separated/divorced/widowed?  
1916 Apr 1 marries dentist James Edward Weirick (Jane born 1872 England.  Aged 44 years.)
1920 census Virginia Avenue St Paul Ward 7, Ramsey, Minnesota. James E Weirich   57  born Pennsylvania.  Dentist.
Janet I Weirich  50  born England. Imm 1895 or 93 – hard to distinguish

plenty more info/years as per post 79 timeline, including the following that also makes a firm link between Ivy and Janet

1938 Oct arrival NY from England. US address Forect (sic) Park, Wausau, Wisconsin age 69
Newspaper report with Ivy Plunkett (daughter) holding a tea at her home (Ivy's) as Janet spending winter there.

cont'd in next post.
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #133 on: Monday 26 February 24 11:56 GMT (UK) »
Summarising backwards, newer to older for mentions of Jane(t) Isabel(la).
1960 Wasau Daily Herald 24 Mar. Death of Mrs Jane Weirick, 91, St Paul, Minn, Died Wed 23 March. Born in Liverpool 10 June 1869 and came to US about 60 years ago. Services by pastor of First Presbyterian Church on 25 Mar. Surviving are daughter Mrs Raymond J Plunkett, Wausau Route 5; two grandchildren (will be Owen and Robert Goodman jnr) and three great-grandchildren.

1950 census St Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota. Janet Weirick   77   Head. Widowed.

1941, 42, 46 Mrs J I Weirick listed in British phone books at Woodland Cottage, Farthing Common with a Lyminge number
1938 In Wausau for the winter with Ivy
1935 Q3 James E Weirick died in Kent, UK.
1930 Jane I Weirick 299 W 6th apt 1 St Paul, Minnesota. Spouse James E Weirick
From St Paul, Minnesota, City Directory, 1930
1926 and 7 Mrs J I Weirick St Paul, Minnesota 1336 Miss River blvd. In Restaurants and Lunch Rooms section. James listed 222 Hamm Bldg in Dentist section
From St Paul, Minnesota, City Directory, 1926 and 7
1916 April 2 newspaper announcement Minneapolis Journal – after marriage of a St Paul man Dr J E Weirick and Mrs Jane Caldwell, they will make their home from July 1 at his suburban residence Somerset Farm on the Jefferson Highway, St Paul.
1916 April 1 married James Edward Weirick, 54 born abt 1862 (Jane 44 born abt 1872 England.
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1914 Chicago City Directory, Brown and Conner (Jane Caldwell) 15 E Washington. Under her own name, as Janet I (Brown and Connor) 15 E Washington and h 413 Wrightwood Ave. (h means house or board so residential address).
1913 Chicago city directory shows Janet J (Brown and Connor) Caldwell - 15 E Washington - they are listed as milliners
Street Address h 413 Wrightwood av, Chicago, Illinois, USA
1913 Chicago city directory also has Caldwell, Jane wid Wm h rear 2710 Fulton – same Jane? TO CHECK
Directories before 1913 just listed Brown and Connor(s) milliners, and had missing pages so I couldn't look for private addresses
1910 Caldwell Jeanette S Mrs (Brown & Connor) 514, 15 E Washington (as per Milliners in business section)
1906 May Mrs Caldwell of the Chicago firm of Brown & Connor will display hats at the Oliver Hotel on May 17. South Bend Tribune.
1905 via Google books. Millinery Trade Review, Volume 30. Published in 1905 Page 112
Mrs. Janet Caldwell, of the millinery firm of Caldwell & Anderson, 203 North Main street, South Bend, Ind., has sold the interest in her business in that city and has removed to Chicago, where she has purchased an interest in the millinery firm of Brown & Connor, 514-16-18 Venetian building, opposite Marshall Field's. Mrs. Caldwell, whose maiden name was Miss Janet Brown, formerly owned an interest in the Brown & Connor establishment of South Bend.
QUERY: An odd wording since it seems she was Brown & Connor in Chicago to start with! CHECK frequency of publication and likely date of entry.
1905 Feb 14. For rent – first floor in the Oliver row. Suitable for business apartments. Apply Caldwell & Anderson, 2 Oliver row. In South Bend Tribune
1905 Feb 4 The firm of Caldwell&Anderson will be closed until Feb 20 due to Mrs Caldwell’s absence in New York and Chicago. South Bend Tribune  SO NO BEDE ANDERSON TO HOLD THE FORT?
1905 Jan 18. Wanted – makers and apprentices for millinery. Apply Caldwell & Anderson, no. 2, Oliver Row
1904 Janette Caldwell (Caldwell and Anderson) res 203 N Main South Bend; Mishawaka, St Joseph County, Indiana, USA  South Bend, Indiana, City Directory, 1904
Caldwell and Anderson (Janette Caldwell and Bede Anderson) millinery 203 N Main.
Anderson, Bede (Caldwell & Anderson) res. 203 N Main
Lived above the shop/workshop?
1903 South Bend city directory.No millinery business at 203 North Main St in the 1903 directory.  No J Caldwell or Brown either.
1901 census 10 Burton Place seems to be a boarding house, no person of interest there.
Also 191 Schiller St, no person of interest. (Coincidentally, there is a William CALDWELL a few doors down at 205 Schiller, with a family)
No one of interest at 38 or 40 Stanley Terrace either in 1901
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1899
Brown Jeanette Miss (Brown & Connor) 517, 34 Washington h 38 Stanley terrace
Connor Helen Miss (Brown & Connor) 517, 34 Washington h 40 Stanley terrace
1898 Lakeside Directory of the City of Chicago (on ancestry)
Brown Jeanette Miss (Brown & Connor) 517, 34 Washington h 191 Schiller
Connor Helen Miss (Brown & Connor) 517, 34 Washington h 10 Burton pl
1897 directory Chicago
Conner Helen (Brown & Conner) 518, 34 Washington h 638 W Munroe
Brown Jeanette (Brown & Conner) ditto h 666 Park Ave
1896 chicago
no Helen Conner/or/ors listed.
however....
Brown Jeanette F wid John F h 6415 Stewart Ave. QUERY Was our Janet Brown actually Mrs Janet Brown?  But definitely listed as Miss Jeanette Brown in 1898 so probably not.
1892-5 directories not available on Ancestry
1891 no Jeanette/Janet Brown
1869 June 10 Liverpool birth according to her death/funeral notice in 1960.
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Last sighting of Brown in 1899.
First sighting of Caldwell is 1904.

At least a narrow window to look for a marriage!

Where is she/they in 1900 census?
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #134 on: Monday 26 February 24 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Not a marriage but adult William Caldwell deaths from Illinois Sec of State website:
CALDWELL, WILLIAM J   1888-02-05   CHICAGO   20 YR   U         00001486   COOK
CALDWELL, WILLIAM   1896-02-17   CHICAGO   60 YR   U         00002538   COOK
CALDWELL, WILLIAM F   1903-06-01   CHICAGO   28 YR   U         00004108   COOK
CALDWELL, WILLIAM   1910-01-14   CHICAGO   38 YR   U         00002246   COOK
CALDWELL, WILLIAM W   1910-08-10   CHICAGO   95 YR   U         00002879   COOK
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