Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891

[ValJJJ]

No J Caldwell or J Brown or Bede Anderson or milliner Connors/Conners in 1901 South Bend city directory. Nothing relevant at North Main St either.

No millinery business at 203 North Main St in the 1903 directory.  No J Caldwell or Brown either.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I was having the same thoughts as you about William Caldwell and his relationship with Janet and Ivy!

As to the Janet Brown on the Gallia passenger list, I think she may be indexed on the outward one from UK as Janet J Brown (Janer J on ancestry). I haven't seen the image though, usually there is not much info on them back then.

The London Gazette, 6 June 1939, has a KB being made a Member of the Civil Division of the said Most Excellent Order
Miss Kathleen Browne, Honorary Secretary,
Empire Day Movement.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/34633/supplement/3867

I guess that's an MBE. Could that be her?

[ValJJJ]

I've looked at the image for the Janet Brown passenger and the whole document is in a bit of a state. There is no more info than that I posted earlier.

Re the MBE, yes that's her.  Wayland, her future husband, was involved with the Empire Day Movement.  He probably nominated her.  A case of who you know!  Also might be how she met Wayland in the first place.

Are you old enough to remember Empire Day? I remember we paraded around the playground at infant school waving flags.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I'm afraid I can't remember Empire Day. Or even when we had an empire! I can remember the old money, that's about it.
Jon

[ValJJJ]

You really haven't missed anything at all!

[maddys52]

Amazing information found on this thread, well done to all. I must agree, my thoughts from the first were that there was a high chance the father "William CALDWELL" was an invention. Though I do find the line in the article jon found: "Mrs. Caldwell, whose maiden name was Miss Janet Brown" interesting. Does this imply some people knew her as Janet BROWN, implying a marriage in the US, or is it simply trying to make a connection with the "Brown and Connor" name. 

[*Sandra*]

Going down the Brown avenue...............

Matilda Ada Woods married William Wayland.

1841 census Dale Street, Liverpool. Lancashire

Edwd Woods 30 Puiblican.
Isabella Woods 40 born Scotland.
Emma Woods 5 born Liverpool.
Isaabel Woods 8 born Liverpool.
Matilda Woods   4 born Liverpool.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ21-L8L

1861 census Bootle Lancashire

Isabella Woods   60   Head.
Emma Woods 26 Daughter.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ21-L8L

Marriage of Emma Woods - (not everything is perfect  father Edward was a solicitor !!)

Emma Woods - 20 March 1866 Bootle St Mary Lancashire. Spinster. - Full Age
Father   Edward Woods - Spouse David Miller Brown. Widower. Father John Brown. Merchant.
Clerk in the Masonic Office. Town Hall. Liverpool.

Liverpool Mercury, etc.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England •
Thu, 21 Jun 1866
Page 3

https://www.newspapers.com/article/liverpool-mercury-etc/141972424/

1871 census 195 Beacon Lane. Liverpool.

David M Brown 47 Head. Accountant.
Emma Brown   37   Wife
Henry G Brown 7 Son  (probably from first marriage of David)
Janet J Brown 3 Daughter (age slightly out  )
David E Brown 2 Son
Sarah Jones 20

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD6M-M5S

BROWN, JANET  ISABEL     WOODS 
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in LIVERPOOL  Volume 08B  Page 195

BROWN, DAVID  EDWARD     WOODS 
GRO Reference: 1868  D Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 433

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Liverpool Daily Post
Liverpool, Merseyside, England •
Wed, 6 Oct 1875
Page 6

https://www.newspapers.com/article/liverpool-daily-post/141972106/
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLSQ-66Z8

4 th November 1875 - probate - died 25 September 1875 Sandyford Avenue Dublin. Probate to Emma Woods (relict) 9 Lomond Road.  (effects under a £1,000)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPJM-RN5L

1881 census 67 Needham Road. West Derby. Lancashire.

Emma Brown 47 Head Annuitant
Henry G. Brown 17 Son. Municipal Clerk.
Janet E. Brown 13 Daughter
David E. Brown   12   Son

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-LPHG

12 November 1881 -  Emma, widow of the late David Miller Brown.
Liverpool Weekly Courier.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JDV-YFM

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Liverpool, England, Crew Lists 1861-1919

Janet Brown - 1867 - Liverpool - 149 Stanley Ro. Bootle.
Age   30
Event Date 26/3/1897 transferred.
Port of Registry   Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ship Name   Lucania.

Sandra