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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #81 on: Friday 23 February 24 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. You’ve been busier than me! But no rain to keep me indoors this morning.

I’m waiting for the American DNA link to get back to me before I start chasing certificates.

On a different tack I noticed the Wayland/Browne wedding announcement stated Kathleen (Kay) Browne OBE, and in Wayland’s probate notice she was Dame Kathleen Wayland MBE. Is she a Dame because Wayland was Sir? But I can’t find her listed in the London Gazette with either an OBE or MBE. I found a website purporting to have lists too but she didn’t pop up there either.
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #82 on: Friday 23 February 24 13:52 GMT (UK) »
Could this be the death of Settle Ivy?
June 1895 Blackburn 8e 274
Caldwell, Ivy
Age 2

Some fantastic research and finds on this thread!
Throw in some odds and ends, which you may or may not have already.
1910 Chicago directory has
Caldwell Jeanette S Mrs (Brown & Connor) 514, 34 Washington h Warner hotel
https://www.chicagoancestors.org/

Brown & Connor were listed at that address way back in 1900

1911 has
Caldwell Jeanette S Mrs (Brown & Connor) 514, 15 E Washington
(as per Milliners in business section)
https://archive.org/details/lakesideannualdi1911unse/page/256/mode/2up

Later
Folkestone Herald, 30 Dec 1933 has some telephone news
Lyminge 87150—Mrs. J. I. Weirick, Woodlands Cottage, Farthing Common, Lyminge.

Janet is in the UK phone books on ancestry

Shimer College Record, Summer 1968
Apology to Ivy Caldwell Plunkett for announcing her death in the Spring edition! (which doesn't appear to be online)
https://archive.org/details/ShimerCollegeRecordVol.60No.2/page/n11/mode/2up

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #83 on: Friday 23 February 24 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Even more good finds! Tx so much. We’re certainly building a picture here. If only to eliminate some possibles.

Shame about Brown and Connor’s business name being such a common surname to find in the residential section - that is something to plough through on a very wet day.  But worth it as Mr/Ms Brown could be Janet’s father or other relation. Or not…

Hmm Jeanette/Janet - not been looking for Jeanettes.

Are there any newspaper reports of Kathleen (Kay) Browne getting an OBE (she was born 1902 and it was mentioned in the 1944 wedding announcement so I guess the earliest would be 1920s) or her getting an MBE (between 1944 and 1950 when mentioned in the probate notice).
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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #84 on: Friday 23 February 24 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Are there any newspaper reports of Kathleen (Kay) Browne getting an OBE (she was born 1902 and it was mentioned in the 1944 wedding announcement so I guess the earliest would be 1920s) or her getting an MBE (between 1944 and 1950 when mentioned in the probate notice).

I've been skimming the posts on this thread because of the Yorkshire connection, but without having anything to contribute. Until now...

The Order of the British Empire has various levels of awards. In ascending order: Member (MBE), Officer (OBE), Commander (CBE), Knight/Dame (KBE/DBE). People are sometimes promoted from one level to another, but someone who is already an OBE wouldn't then be appointed MBE.

What I suspect may be the case here is that in the wedding announcement someone has used OBE to refer to the Order of the British Empire, rather than the rank of Officer. If so, there's most likely a single award of MBE, some time before 1944.


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« Reply #85 on: Friday 23 February 24 14:59 GMT (UK) »
There are quite a few references to Brown & Connor in the Millinery Trade Review, on google books. But all seem to be in bits in snippet view :(

However, I think this one can be put together!
Millinery Trade Review, Volume 30. Published in 1905

Page 112
Mrs. Janet Caldwell, of the millinery firm of Caldwell & Anderson, 203 North Main street, South Bend, Ind., has sold the interest in her business in that city and has removed to Chicago, where she has purchased an interest in the millinery firm of Brown & Connor, 514-16-18 Venetian building, opposite Marshall Field's. Mrs. Caldwell, whose maiden name was Miss Janet Brown, formerly owned an interest in the Brown & Connor establishment of South Bend.

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #86 on: Friday 23 February 24 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Possibly unconnected, but that snippet reminds me that a Janet Brown, aged 25, Spinster, arrived in New York in March 1893. Travelled on the Gallia from Liverpool.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6BK-16G

My impression from the image was that she was headed for Indiana :-\

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #87 on: Friday 23 February 24 15:14 GMT (UK) »
That's a good find. Nice to see she was there earlier than 1909.

City Directory -  shows :- (same info)

Janette Caldwell (Caldwell and Anderson) res 203 N Main
Residence Year   1904
Residence Place   South Bend; Mishawaka, St Joseph County, Indiana, USA
Publication Title   South Bend, Indiana, City Directory, 1904
Caldwell and Anderson (Janette Caldwell and Bede Anderson) millinery 203 N Main.

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Re: Birth of Ivy CALDWELL abt 1891
« Reply #88 on: Friday 23 February 24 19:57 GMT (UK) »
You are all making some fantastic finds.  Well done all.

Also now I know thanks to Arthuk all about Office and Order of the Br Empire.  I always thought an OBE was the Order of, not realising Officer existed.  So I'll see if I can find her being awarded an MBE but not sure if all of these are Gazetted.

A great find about Caldwell and Anderson, then Brown and Connor.  Also the single Janet Brown, 25, on the Gallia on route to Indiana for a projected sojourn, arriving March 1893.  Could be her. I am beginning to wonder if Mr William Caldwell was fictitious - I've looked for a marriage in Indiana but not found one. Or he did exist and was/wasn't Ivy's father but Mrs Caldwell was a convenient label, if Janet had a child.

For Caldwell and Anderson, do we assume Mrs Caldwell went into business with an Anderson? or was it William Caldwell first and Anderson. Hence Brown and Connor earlier.  Hopefully there is a city directory of Bend, Indiana that shows residential details in addition to businesses.

There's a William Caldwell arriving on the Sardinia on 19 Mar 1893 into Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada and Portland, Maine, USA. English, single, 26, farmer.  There is some writing in a column to the right that might be destination as Chicago is written against other names, and Brandon. It's faint and looks like it says que or gen capelle? I can't attach a snippet though.





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« Reply #89 on: Friday 23 February 24 20:24 GMT (UK) »
1904 city directory for South Bend:
Anderson, Bede (Caldwell & Anderson) res. 203 N Main

There's a Bede Anderson in the 1900 federal census, female, born abt 1883 in Sweden, immigrated when 0, working as a servant in the Whitcomb family in Chicago.  And various Bede Andersons marrying later.

A Beda Anderson arrived from Liverpool 11 months old on the 1 Sep 1884 on Cephalonia, arriving Boston, Massachusetts and Charlestown, South Carolina, Massachusetts, USA. The lines above state Anes Anderson, 10, female, Augusta Anderson, 25, matron. Then Bida. Then Loresa (?) Anderson, 15, spinster - all Swedish.  There are a lot of women listed as 'matron' for occupation on this passenger list. Perhaps it mean mother?

The women are listed separately to the men, and there are a lot of Andersons (is it the Swedish equivalent of Smith?) but hard to know which were families.


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