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John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« on: Tuesday 13 February 24 16:24 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to find any proof of a marriage between John Armstrong and Sarah Allen in Bedfordshire in 1698, but having no luck! John died in 1727 in Riseley, while Sarah was born 9 July 1676 in the county.

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Bob
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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 February 24 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Where did you get your information from?
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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 February 24 01:49 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: StevenG on Tuesday 13 February 24 16:36 GMT (UK)
Where did you get your information from?

There are a number of baptisms for children at Riseley between 1700 and 1716 with parents John and Sarah ARMSTRONG. Many public trees on Ancestry have their marriage in 1698, but have no supporting evidence.

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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 February 24 05:49 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the replies.
It seems some 'creative' genealogy is at play here!
Cheers,
Bob
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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 February 24 08:50 GMT (UK) »
How do you know Sarah's surname and her date of birth?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 February 24 08:57 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: castlebob on Wednesday 14 February 24 05:49 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the replies.
It seems some 'creative' genealogy is at play here!
Cheers,
Bob

Not necessarily, it's just that they don't provide a source - probably all copied from one another.

There is a Sarah ALLEN baptised at St Swithin, Sandy 9 July 1676, parents James and Margaret.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817b562e93790ec8bfe85e9

I suspect this looked like a possible for John's wife, but without a marriage entry, I'm not certain.

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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 February 24 09:00 GMT (UK) »
I was sent it by someone who'd seen the info on the internet - probably Ancestry. I'm always wary of Ancestry trees, plus LDS entries. I noticed that someone had taken 25 years off the age of John's first child (born in 1700), and claimed a 1675 birth date. Typical of LDS entries. It may be that someone else then found a Sarah of the same age!
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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 February 24 09:01 GMT (UK) »
And a Sarah Allen bapt Bedford in 1679 and another in Kempston in 1673 - both a bit closer to Riseley than Sandy.
But I cannot see any evidence that Sarah's surname was Allen. All the baptism records I have found (on FindMyPast, so only transcripts) just give her forename - no maiden surname.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: John Armstrong married Sarah Allen Query
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 February 24 09:04 GMT (UK) »
Children baptised to the couple in Riseley don't seem to have the names James or Margaret. Doesn't preclude Sarah ALLEN as the mother, but ...

27 Dec 1700  Sarah
11 Dec 1701  William
3 Sep 1704  Elizabeth
9 Jan 1706/7  Mary
19 Feb 1709/10  John
28 Jan 1710/11  Robert
31 Jan 1713/14  John
25 Mar 1716  Rebecca

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Sorry, didn't see your post Lizzie. What are the parents' names of the other Sarah ALLENs?
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