Tracing an illusive Railway employee, London, 1930s

[MollyC]

I don't use FS much either.  For this mystery family I thought it was worth checking.

I don't think you can tell if someone else has notifications active for a person, only if you have requested it for yourself.  FS Helpdesk did not suggest that, they can probably see any flags.  I didn't touch it because I wanted others to be able to see that all this was added by one person at one time, ten years ago.  Someone could try correcting some capital letters now.

A person out there was interested but did not know a great deal.  That is why I suggested the Warwickshire board, and others suggested DNA.

 

[softly softly]

Info only

Joan M Nicholls did die in Cornwall in 2010.  The son born 1950 appears in electoral registers up and until 2023 in Cornwall.

SS

post amened.

[MollyC]

SS - Typo?  I think you mean 2010.  Interesting about the electoral register.

[softly softly]

SS - Typo?  I think you mean 2010.  Interesting about the electoral register.

Quite right, post amended, thanks

SS

[softly softly]

I think this is Albert Sydney Spiers father's birth and death.


SPIERS, EDWIN  NEWLAND     mmn WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 189


SPIERS, EDWARD  NEWLAND     30 
GRO Reference: 1913  J Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 548

His father William H Spiers and Jane Williams.

SS

added, as a side note Edwin had a brother called Bertie(1889-1960) He had a son called Eric in 1920

[MollyC]

Jane appears to have been a widow.

The only possible marriage I can see is:
William Henry Spiers to Jane Chambers  Dec Q 1865  Aston

1881 census shows William & Jane's eldest child, William H born c1867.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC/1881/0013785213&expand=true

(but he is registered as William Henry SPIRES (sic), mmn Williams, Dec Q 1866)
(amended)

[brit]

Growing up in England we were a railway family. The certificate is correct, there were dining car
attendents. Dining cars were added to long distance trains, especially the Flying Scotsman.
It was really nice to have a meal or a tea and be serve by the attendant who was dressed in short fitted white jackets with a clean towel over his arm. You had your own tea pot, mild jug and sugar bowl. Not sure if they are still in use as I have not ridden a train for many years having moved to USA.
My son who was with me in 1971 was excited for his experience having a meal on he train from London Euston to Birmingham New Street.

[MollyC]

I think it has mostly been reduced to buffet cars, then trolley service.  I remember the same service in the 1960s on the Master Cutler route, Kings Cross to Sheffield Victoria, via the east coast mainline.

[BobB1]

Hello all

FYI. Today I received the birth certificate for Albert & Amy Spier's daughter, Joan Margaret (attached). Their marriage certificate I'm hoping will arrive tomorrow.

In October 1926, they appear to both be living at 12 Kensington Gardens, Balsall Heath. Alberts occupation is Barman.

I am still undecided if Albert Sydney Spiers and Albert (Navy) and Albert unemployed waiter are the same man. There is compelling circumstantial evidence, but nothing for certain.

I've done my best this week to find a link to Madge with these 3 men - nothing at all so far. It seems highly likely to me that they met in Birmingham in some capacity, either work or socially and then ran away to London.

I have also been trying to follow the path of Albert Spiers who did 6 months prison in 1927, to see of there is any data to link him to the other 2 - I can find no further reference to him, where he served his sentence or a prison record to view etc. I presume prison records are available?

Bob