Anyone with access to Norfolk Parish registers BEFORE 1707.

[Essnell]

 Hi Everyone. 

Anyone with access to original parish registers for Norfolk  and or maybe Suffolk.

Looking for the birth or baptism of John Mornement  born C 1707 .  may be 1706.  Hopefully that would tell us where this occurred.

Several persons looking for this unsuccessfully via online info.    Wife Sarah is known and also Children. 
He lived for most of his life in Hoxne Suffolk.    That we know all about.  He was Tailor. 

any help greatly appreciated
Essnell.
 

[mckha489]

To avoid duplication of effort, this post relates to this earlier thread. There is an unanswered question there.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=879266.msg7515470#msg7515470

[mckha489]

Bishops transcripts are indexed at Familysearch

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/255340?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Not much coming up, other than a couple of MONIMENTS c 1691


Added, there are other Norfolk records on FamilySearch. Some are books, but some are microfilms that haven’t been indexed, but you can page through in the old fashioned way.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/results?count=20&placeId=1927878&query=%2Bplace%3A%22England%2C%20Norfolk%22&subjectsOpen=510877-50,679839-50,342680-50


Plenty of reading there

[mckha489]

There are original prs on ancestry.
Eg Hillerius Moniment Great Snoring bap    11 Oct 1690. Child of Elizabeth & Hillary

(Register is in Latin)

[Rena]

There's also the old Geoff Lowe & Andrew Rivett doun.org  website where it can be seen on the surname list that the spelling of your surname varies enormously.

http://doun.org/transcriptions/

[Ili1133]

Is he the John Monument (sic) of Diss, Norfolk, Taylor, with an apprentice 1741? Though the Register of Duties for Apprentices was clearly a transcription, it backs up the variations with the spelling. The later entries in the Register (1770s) spell the name for the same family Mornement.

[coombs]

Outside the one born in Southery which you have already mentioned, I did find a John Moniment baptism in Sculthorpe in Norfolk, in July 1716, to Thomas and Anne. Age wise it is a few years out but as we know, ages on burial records, deaths certs etc can be unreliable.

I did find a John Monement baptised in 1710 in Burnham Deepdale in 1710, son of Benjamin and Mary. Plus the one born in 1698 in Hindringham son of Johannis and Hester.

[Ili1133]

There’s also John Moniment, baptism at Shipdham in May 1709, son of John and Mary. Could fit a typical naming pattern for John and Sarah’s children.

No signs in the PRs down near the Norfolk/Suffolk border though.

[Ili1133]

It will be difficult to decide without access to some of the Suffolk PRs, including baptisms for Hoxne prior to 1754. That would hopefully give you names for Sarah’s parents (unless you have them from another source?). There are a couple of Roper marriages in the right timeframe (John + Mary 1698 or Henry + Sarah 1712/13 seem the most likely).

The Hoxne baptism registers do exist but Suffolk FHS haven’t completed work on them yet. They are due to be available through Anc* from 2025 and there are plenty of Rootschatters who can help you with the details of what is due when.

I do still think John is more likely to have moved into the area from Norfolk as the  first time I can spot the family name in the Suffolk Archives is a settlement certificate in 1741, when your family (John MONUMENT, wife Sarah and children John, William and Lydia) moved (back) from Diss in Norfolk to Hoxne.