1939 register

[phil57]

sorry, my error. Yes have seen many instances of open on FindMyPast and closed on Ancestry. Ancestry also don't tend to transcribe the street if the top row with it is redacted, they don't look back at the previous or next page. FindMyPast do that bit better, wish they had done the 1921 to the same standard.

FindMyPast have an agreement with TNA, stemming from their original transcription of the 1939 register, whereby they can make alterations to the register entries, such as opening redacted entries, and send the updated record to TNA. So the data exchange between TNA and FindMyPast in relation to the register is a two-way street, and is completed regularly. Ancestry have no such agreement, and simply obtain updates from TNA on fixed timescales. I can't remember what that timescale is, whether it is annually, quarterly, or whatever, although I did find a reference to it at one time. But entries viewed on Ancestry are, more often than not, going to be behind any amendments made through FindMyPast or TNA directly and may not reflect the changes for some time.

When I have submitted opening requests to FindMyPast, as I said in my previous post, they are normally quite quick in responding and I have had a couple opened within a matter of hours. I have been able to view the entries in that timescale also, although I think they say that it can take 24-48 hours for the changes to fully propogate through their systems.

[iolaus]

The Irony is that the individual whom I'm interested in is redacted, born 1923 died 2007. His brother, living in a different
household born 1928 and is still alive Is unredacted. Shows that errors are made.

Same as me, my grandmother is redacted and died 2014, her younger brother is also redacted (died 2017), two of her sisters are unredacted - both died after her - in fact one has always been visible since the release date and she died this summer

[BettyofKent]

Same here, two children in one household, one still alive but has always been visible, the other died in 2015 but is still redacted. Perhaps being married 4 times means she is lost somewhere in the system!

The Irony is that the individual whom I'm interested in is redacted, born 1923 died 2007. His brother, living in a different
household born 1928 and is still alive Is unredacted. Shows that errors are made.

Same as me, my grandmother is redacted and died 2014, her younger brother is also redacted (died 2017), two of her sisters are unredacted - both died after her - in fact one has always been visible since the release date and she died this summer

[nestagj]

  Have you tried searching for the third brother with a minimum of information? I found my mother by using date of birth and forename. She had a relatively common first name, but it only brought up 21 entries.

Yes I have even tried birth day and month over a 5 year period with no name . 😢

[california dreamin]

Hi

Three brothers, mother died in 1938 and were farmed out to various relatives of which there were many !
- one born in 1926 died 2011 - I can see him with his father in the 1939 Register
- one born in 1930 still living
- one born 1934 died 2014 - have searched both FindMyPast and Ancestry and I can't see him anywhere.   This is my father in law.   He's not with either set of grandparents.

I've contacted FindMyPast but I need an address for him: all suggestions welcomed.

Thank you
Nesta

You wont find them in an index search. This is because based on their year of birth they would be under 100 years old and therefore the system will deem them still to be alive.  If dead you'd need to submit their d/c to have the record opened up.

CD

[elliot]

In my Career Researching I have found the Accuracy of the Birth Date on the 1939 Register to be about 60% Correct.
I have come to the Conclusion that the Copied Summary Page by the Enumerator that we see is because the Figures they saw on the Original Form Completed were illegible so they copied their best guess.
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ALAMO2008 suggests transcribed birthdates are only about 60% correct.   

My trust has now taken a severe setback as I have always assumed these birthdates to be mostly correct as each adult person would have wanted their Ration Book and give an accurate date!
I agree that some dates are illegible or written over but I do welcome the chance for a full birthdate to supplement the baptismal date and the Quarter from the Birth Indexes.

I wonder if any future census will publish full birthdate rather than mere 'age'.

[elliot]

In my Career Researching I have found the Accuracy of the Birth Date on the 1939 Register to be about 60% Correct.
I have come to the Conclusion that the Copied Summary Page by the Enumerator that we see is because the Figures they saw on the Original Form Completed were illegible so they copied their best guess.
[/quote]

ALAMO2008 suggests 1939 transcribed birthdates are only about 60% correct.   

My trust has now taken a severe setback as I have always assumed these birthdates to be mostly correct as each adult person would have wanted their Ration Book and give an accurate date!
I agree that some dates are illegible or written over but I do welcome the chance for a full birthdate to supplement the baptismal date and the Birth Index quarters.
I wonder if any future census will publish full birthdate rather than mere 'age'.

[BumbleB]

Not sure whether the actual birthdate will appear when the 2021 census is finally published, but as I made a copy of our submission I do know that the question was asked.

[nestagj]

You wont find them in an index search. This is because based on their year of birth they would be under 100 years old and therefore the system will deem them still to be alive.  If dead you'd need to submit their d/c to have the record opened up

As I mentioned in my post - I'm looking for the third brother who died in 2014 and I don not have an address to request the record to be opened.   Was asking for any suggestions as to how to search for him.

Nesta