Thanks Kiltaglassan, Sinnann, yes Sinnann I didn't see the obvious, I have no idea? And if memory serves me that information about live children is not in the 1901 census so I will head back to the genealogy site for possible matching deaths. I had all the names previously but my computer went rogue and I lost all the information I am going back at the request of Australian relatives as they want to pass the information to their children. J