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Offline Marie Baker

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Help with date and regiment
« on: Tuesday 17 October 23 16:53 BST (UK) »
Any help with identifying approximate date and regiment would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 17:02 BST (UK) »
The picture distorts when I tried to enlarge it.

Could you do a close up of his cap to show the badge as someone might be able to identify the regiment from that.

Do you know his name, his dob, occupation? If so, have you tried looking for Army records online?
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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 17:11 BST (UK) »
Date: 1920s or early 1930s. Impossible to identify the regiment without a better image.
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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 17:19 BST (UK) »
Is the above picture related to your other post William Delves born 1884 Bermondsey?

Help with identification
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=874220.msg7458832#msg7458832
"can anyone out there have a shot at the regiment and an approximate date for this man" - no photo attached as it was too large.

William Delves b1884 Bermondsey
Service number 10699
Regiment Middlesex Regiment
Attestation date 31 Oct 1905
Attestation service number 10699
Attestation corps Duke Of Cambridge'S Own (Middlesex Regiment)
Discharge corps Duke Of Cambridge'S Own (Middlesex Regiment)

Father Harry
Mother Annie
84 ?hateley Road East Dulwich
Younger brothers
Frederick, Harry & Edward

Edit - Harry & Annie Delves are living at 84 Whateley Road in 1911 with their three daughters
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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 20:45 BST (UK) »
Only clue we have is Sgt Delves written on the back. We don’t know which member of the family this could be.
Closeup of cap badge.

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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 20:57 BST (UK) »
Tried to get a closer detail .

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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 21:51 BST (UK) »
My immediate thought was that this is the Coldsteam Guards

but the badge in the photo appears to be rounded at the top, meaning that it is probably a crown and not the point of a star as is the case with the Coldstream badge. However I can't find any of the many star shaped badges surmounted by a crown (eg the Devonshire Regt, or the Border Regt) in which three points on each side seem to extend out roughly the same amount. The closest match I can come up with is the George V version of the Army Service Corps badge (1902-1918), before the Corps got its Royal prefix and a new badge.

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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 22:45 BST (UK) »
If it is the ASC badge


Only clue we have is Sgt Delves written on the back. We don’t know which member of the family this could be.


A possibility

John B Delves
Medal type British Army Medal Index Cards, 1914-1920
Service number S4/16147(INCOMPLETE)
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Rank Sergeant
Regiment Army Service Corps
Service record Soldier Number: S4/16147(Incomplete), Rank: Sergeant, Corps: Army Service Corps
Record set Britain, Campaign, Gallantry & Long Service Medals & Awards

John B Delves
Military Date   1914-1920
Regiment or Corps   Army Service Corps
Regimental Number   S4/161471
UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920

John Baddeley Delves
Military Year   1914-1920
Rank   Sergeant
Company   WO 329
Regiment or Corps   Royal Army Service Corps
Regiment Number   S4/161471
Medal Awarded   British War Medal and Victory Medal

Could this be him on census

1901 census
Piece   2606
Folio   66
Page number   18
John Baddley Delves 29 Head butcher
Elizabeth Ann Delves 29 Wife
John Baddley Delves   9 Son
Ellen Elizth Delves8 Daughter

John Baddeley Delves
Record Type   Divorce
Type   Husband's petition for divorce [hd].
Petition Date   1918
Spouse   Elsie Delves
Record says he’s Sergeant S4/161471 Army Service Corps Field 13th Butchery at present serving with the BEF in France…..married 2nd Jan 1909…….(then Elsie Billings), m/c his father named same occ butcher

Death

DELVES, JOHN  BADDELEY     age 60 
GRO Reference: 1951  S Quarter in STOKE-ON-TRENT  Volume 09B  Page 446

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Re: Help with date and regiment
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 October 23 18:51 BST (UK) »
a better photo of the badge including the collars would be useful.