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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 October 23 11:02 BST (UK) »
You most likely know the following, but he was not shown after 1861 in trees that I viewed when looking for William…

George Judson Peters, born 1847, can be found on the (New Brunswick) 1871, 1881 and 1891 census returns.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 October 23 11:20 BST (UK) »
Found on Ancestry…New Brunswick deaths

Mary Matilda Peters died March 21, 1899.  Age 94.  ???  Residence: Hammond.  Church of England.

I’ve not yet found William Peters.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 15 October 23 12:23 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Cindysw on Saturday 14 October 23 23:19 BST (UK)
I am hoping to find a way (or group) to either confirm or question whether I have found enough proof that my 3rd. great grandfather's parents are who I think they are.
I am wondering what you consider to be 'proof'.  If you mean genuine scientific (i.e. unarguable) proof, I humbly suggest that is a hopeless aim.  If you mean merely acceptable to yourself, only you can judge that.  Nearly all historic records show information given voluntarily by informants, which occasionally was 'massaged' for various reasons, and possibly misrecorded by the hearer.  The best you can hope for is that everything is consistent and confirmed by other sources.
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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 October 23 13:27 BST (UK) »
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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 October 23 14:07 BST (UK) »
So William Peters may have been the son of Henry Peters and Mary nee Standing according to some Ancestry trees. Well Standing/Standen is a predominantly Sussex surname. A Henry Peters wed Mary Standing in 1803 in Folkestone, Kent.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 October 23 22:15 BST (UK) »
William Peters baptized in 1819 in Elham, Kent, England of Henry and Mary (Standin) Peters.

1851 census for Kings & Sydney Ward, St John, St John Co, NB, Canada William was born in England is 40 yrs. old, Matilda is 35 and born in NS, Canada, George Judson is 4 yrs born NB and Margaret (2nd. g-grandmother) is 2 born NB.  Every other census record 1871,1881,1891 all state that he was born in England.

Henry & Mary (Standin) Peters immigrated between Jun 1829 and 1830 to Richibucto, Kent Co, NB, Canada according to census records for Richibucto and Weldford, with all but two of their children. They received a land grant in Weldford (just outside of Richibucto). The same place my William petitioned for land.

William & Matilda went from Weldford where their son George Judson was born in 1846, to St John in 1851 census working as a milkman, then to Hammond (as a farmer) where he died. His obit and tombstone is of no help.

I have been using other ancestry members trees until I can connect my William Peters to Henry and Mary (Standin) Peters.

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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 15 October 23 22:32 BST (UK) »
I know all about William (Weldford) & Matilda (Richibucto) from their marriage in 1845 in Richibucto, Kent Co., NB to their deaths in Hammond. I have found and proven all their children and their children to my generation.

I can't find a way to connect my William to Henry & Mary (Standin) Peters of Folkestone, Kent, England and Weldford, Kent, NB.
 
I cannot find a record that has William's birth any more specific than England, I can place him with the Henry & Mary (Standin) Peters in Weldford, as witnesses at his wedding. I can't find another William that could be their son William baptized in 1819 in Elham, Kent, England.

William and Matilda were buried at the Londonderry St Paul's Anglican Church Cemetery on the Shepody Road in Kings County, New Brunswick.  Their tombstone does not give their place of birth.

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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 October 23 00:18 BST (UK) »
Henry (1780-) & Mary Standin Peter's were the first to immigrate in abt. 1830, with 7 of their 9 children.  Henry (1780-) and his son Henry (1803-) are in the 1861 census for Richibucto, Kent Co, NB page 28.

HENRY'S (1780-1867  born Folkestone, Kent on tombstone) and MARY STANDIN PETERS children listed on his obit, buried Richibucto
Henry (1803-1879)
John (1806-1842) deceased before his father's death
Sarah Ann (Peters) Warman (1812-1885)
Charles (1815-1850) deceased before his father's death
Ann (Peters) Kinread (1817-1895)
Stephen (1822-1900)
Rachel (Peters) Atkinson (1825-1900)

His obit includes his deceased sons but does not include his daughters in England or his son William baptized in 1820 Elham, Kent, England.
Mary (Peters) Fordred (1808-1887) married 1831 in Kent, England, died England
Benedicta (Peters) Read (1810-1888) married 1829 in Kent, England, died England
WILLIAM PETERS (1819-1895) either immigrated with family @ abt. 11 years in 1830 or died.






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Re: Enough Proof?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 October 23 00:33 BST (UK) »
Or he is the William Peters that married Mary Matilda Lawrence in 1845 in Richibucto, with Henry Peters & John KINREAD as witnesses, petitioned for land in Weldford, NB in 1847 (same place Henry Peters was granted land), baptized his first child GEORGE JUDSON in Weldford in 1847, then is in the St John 1851 census with wife Mary, son GEORGE JUDSON 4 yrs. old, and Margaret 2 yrs.
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