Occupations

[fiddlerslass]

He probably started as a pupil teacher, possibly as young as around the age of 13 , it was a bit like an apprenticeship. By the age of 18 or so they would be qualified.

[ShaunJ]

BTW, Shaun, I have not be able to find Robert in the 1851C. Have you?

Yes HO107/2499 Folio 547 page 7

[johneowens]

Many thanks, Shaun, for finding this. But what a Horlicks the enumerator made of it.

So, "Shows" is Thomas for Robert (b. Oswestry) - again an assistant overseer -  and Catherine (b. Llanymynech, Shropshire, not Llwyngwril, which is in Gwynedd)

Then, another couple of puzzles. The enumerator adds "Eary" Edwards, as a visitor but I do not recognise this forename. And, then, John Robert "Edwards" is listed as Robert's son, age 5. Robert and Catherine married the year before in 1850. John Robert Thomas was baptised 3 Jan 1851 but died 15 Jan 1852. So, would have been 1.

Any help/corroboration much appreciated.

Best

John

[ShaunJ]

But what a Horlicks the enumerator made of it.

That's a bit unfair on the enumerator. It's Ancestry that's made a Horlicks of it.

FindMyPast transcribed Robert Thomas correctly, and has son John Robert as aged 0, correctly reflecting the age of 5 months recorded by the enumerator.

FindMyPast's stab at the female visitor's first name is Rees.  It does appear to begin with R.

[fiddlerslass]

The writing is terrible, not helped by squeezing in the visitor 

Could the visitor be Eliz Edwards, 12 scholar born Oswestry? The first letter coincides with the capital letter of John, which does make it appear like as R.

There is this one with mmn Thomas, so perhaps a niece?

    EDWARDS, ELIZABETH        THOMAS     
GRO Reference: 1838  S Quarter in OSWESTRY  Volume 18  Page 146

[johneowens]

But what a Horlicks the enumerator made of it.

That's a bit unfair on the enumerator. It's Ancestry that's made a Horlicks of it.

FindMyPast transcribed Robert Thomas correctly, and has son John Robert as aged 0, correctly reflecting the age of 5 months recorded by the enumerator.

FindMyPast's stab at the female visitor's first name is Rees.  It does appear to begin with R.

Shaun

You are right (again). Mea culpa: Ancestry made a Horlicks of the transcription.

"Eary"? Edwards does, however, look more like Eliz than Rees. Note the shape of the "E" in Edward and Eliz a few lines down at Schedule 28. Also tied in with fiddleclass' find for the 1838 Oswestry birth associated with Thomas, which I will need to research further.

Thanks

John

[johneowens]

The writing is terrible, not helped by squeezing in the visitor 

Could the visitor be Eliz Edwards, 12 scholar born Oswestry? The first letter coincides with the capital letter of John, which does make it appear like as R.

There is this one with mmn Thomas, so perhaps a niece?

    EDWARDS, ELIZABETH        THOMAS     
GRO Reference: 1838  S Quarter in OSWESTRY  Volume 18  Page 146

Many thanks, fiddleclass. I think you are correct: "Eary"? Edwards looks more like Eliz than Rees. Note the shape of the "E" in Edward and Eliz a few lines down at Schedule 28 on the same page - . which ties in with your find for the 1838 Oswestry birth associated with Thomas, which I will need to research further.

Best

John