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Offline TonyV

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 October 23 21:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Heywood. I have PM'd you.

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 October 23 02:19 BST (UK) »
I think I may be able to contribute some useful info. Looking at the marriage record to which TonyV refers, it shows the groom as Joseph McGinley, Master Grocer, aged 38, of 3 Hospital Street in Glasgow whose parents were John McGinley, Farmer and Winifred McGinley m.s. Philbin. The bride was Honorie Meenaghan, a cook/domestic servant, aged 27, usually residing in Morpeth, England..parents were John Meenaghan, Farmer, and Mary Meenaghan m.s. Devitt.

I believe this record has two typos, the first being McGinley which should say Ginnelly, and Devitt, which should say Davitt. I am fairly confident in saying so for they all relate to me and come from a Townland called Rinnashinnagh (now called Foxpoint) near Barnatra in Mayo, Ireland.

Joseph was born on 8 Dec 1875, Honorie 1886. Joseph had (at least) 4 siblings....Mary, Ellen (Ellin), Ann and Martin.

I have evidence the registrar in Glasgow either wasn't very literate or spelt names phonetically as the name said in a strong Irish accent sounded to him. (Add an um before Ginnelly and you can imagine it sounding like McGinley.) This said, it may be he was happy to have the Mc added to his name so it sounded more Scottish in an effort to overcome the rampant discrimination taking place against the Irish at the time. I doubt it though for they were both back living in Mayo by January 1915 when they had their daughter Mary. (They also had other children including a son called Michael Ginnelly). Hope this helps

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 October 23 22:44 BST (UK) »
Well spotted AntAM and thanks for the additional information. I have PM'd you about your connections to the Meenaghan families in Rinnashinnagh and Gortmelia.

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 October 23 23:16 BST (UK) »
AntAM

I tried to PM you but it was rejected with the message that your inbox is full.

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 October 23 07:30 BST (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat, AntAM  :)

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 October 23 08:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the heads up Kiltaglassan, it is appreciated.

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 22:09 BST (UK) »
My 2 x great grandmother was Bridget (maiden name) Ginely/Ginnelly/McGinley depending on the document - she went by all at some point in time. She was born sometime around 1870-1880. Married my 2 x great grandfather John Michael Gannon and had my great grandfather John Joseph Gannon in 1903. They all immigrated to America after 1918, and appear to have been from Westport, Co. Mayo. I would be interested in linking her further back to her parents, grandparents, etc. if you have information that seems relevant.

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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #16 on: Friday 04 October 24 20:34 BST (UK) »
Here is the marriage - 1896
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10447/5804348.pdf
You will see a stamp ‘see new certified copy’ which is here - difficult to read though
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10447/5804348a.pdf

Her father is John and residence is Gorteen.

On here though https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=578577.0 you have her father as Patrick so you would need to check.
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Re: Ginnelly/McGinley
« Reply #17 on: Friday 04 October 24 21:05 BST (UK) »
Hi MMartin03

I have a few John Gannons and a Bridget Ginnelly among my DNA matches but probably not the ones you are interested in. Apart from the dates being different, they seem to come from farther north, along the coast east of Belmullet. Gannon is quite a common name among my matches so I almost certainly have some genetic relationship to the wider family. My search is to find the names in the USA and your ancestors were there by about 1918 but I need to find a woman of child-bearing age probably around that year or maybe a little earlier.

I see that Heywood has helped you already

All the best
Tony