Ramsey Baptisms LOOKUP needed - Ibberson/Hunns

[JenClark]

Hi All,

Hoping someone may be able to check the Huntingdon baptisms for the below families:

Children of John Ibberson/Everson of Ramsey (married 1686, buried 1722):
Jeremiah - buried 1686
Margaret - buried 1688
Susannah - married 1718
Margaret - married 1713
Ann
Elizabeth - married 1719
Francis - married 1723/24
Mary - buried 1720

Children of William Hunns of Ramsey (second marriage 1662/3, buried 1677)
Jorat/Gerat - eldest son in will
Margaret - abt 1662
Edward - abt 1663/4, buried 1664
Elizabeth - abt 1665, buried 1666
Thomas - abt 1667, buried 1667
William - abt 1668, buried 1669
Grace - abt 1670
Edward - abt 1673, married 1699
John - abt 1675 - youngest son in will

I have information from marriages, burials and wills, and am hoping that the baptisms will help me better sort them out

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Jenny

[Galium]

Baptisms at Ramsey
9 December 1677 Mary Ibbotson d/o John
19 December 1680 Robert Ibbotson s/o John
4 April 1683 Ursula Ibbottson d/o John
10 August 1684 John Ibbottson als Everson s/o John
21 October 1685 Jeremiah Everson s/o John

5 August 1687 Adam Everson s/o John
19 August 1688 Margaret Everson (BT Ibberson) d/o John
25 November 1688 Robert Everson (BT Ibberson) s/o John
20 September 1689 Susanna Everson d/o John
8 July 1691 Margaret Everson d/o John
18 April 1693 ____Everson d/o John
6 January 1694/5 Eliz. Everson d/o John
18 November 1696 Mary Ibberson d/o John

No sign of a Francis s/o John

[JenClark]

Hi Galium,

Thanks so much for looking those ones up for me

Looks like we might be dealing with 2 John Ibberson/Eversons as there are two baptisms close together in 1688...

My John Ibberson left a will in 1722 mentioning his son Francis, and daughters Susannah (husband William Eate) & Elizabeth (married surname Lawrance), he also mentions his grandchildren (the children of Isaac Hanker, who had married Margaret Ibberson but she died in 1719).

Interesting that Francis does not show up in the Ramsey baptisms....he is my direct line. It is most likely that he was born after 1696, as he does not marry until 1723/4. He is not mentioned in his grandfather's will (Francis Ibberson 1693/4), but his sisters Susannah, Margaret and Ann are. So we are missing Ann as well....unless she is the unnamed daughter born in 1693. Which, now that I think about it makes sense as the will was written that year and Susannah and Margaret were born 1689 & 1691. The family were baptist by the 1740's so perhaps their non-conformism started before Francis' birth?

Did the Hunns family show up? Or are they also missing from the parish registers?

Jenny

[Galium]

Hi Jenny.
There are two William Huns having children baptised in Ramsey during the years you are interested in.
23 May 1657 Jarrett Huns s/o William
29 June 1662 Margett Hunns d/o William
17 January 1663/4 Edward Hunns s/o William
4 June 1665 Elizabeth Hunns d/o William
24 February 1666/7 Dorothy Hunns d/o William jnr
11 August 1667 Thomas Hunns s/o William
9 August 1668 William Hunns s/o William
7 November 1669 Elizabeth Hunns d/o William jnr
23 January 1669/70 Grace Hunns d/o William snr
26 November 1671 Anne Hunns d/o William jnr
8 May 1673 Edward Hunns s/o William
18 January 1673/4 William Hunns s/o William
22 August 1675 John Hunns s/o William
22 October 1676 Elisabeth Hunns d/o William
9 April 1680 Dorothy Hunns d/o William

[JenClark]

Thanks Galium, of course there are two 

Hopefully the wills will help me keep them straight. My William Hunns died in 1677 (buried 29 Apr 1677), leaving a will (written 21 Apr 1677) in which he is described as William Hunns the elder. He names his children as, Jorat, Margaret, Grace, Edward & John. His wife was named as Elizabeth, whom he married 27 Feb 1662/3 (Elizabeth Tilley), after his first wife Margaret died in June 1662 following young Margaret's birth. Margaret Hunns born 1662 is my direct line.

William Hunns junior does not appear to be his son....possibly a nephew or cousin? William Hunns married Anne Potten 16 Oct 1666, and Dorothy born Feb 1666/67 must be their first child, hence the moniker junior being used.

Thank goodness for wills hey

Jenny

[EversonTree]

I can possibly go down the Everson route a little here, if you get as far as Robert Everson (b 1728) as he is the furthest back our Family Tree goes, with his marriage to Ann Tricker (m 21.6.1749)

They were in Stowmarket, so in the area, and conceivable for the generation or two beyond where you are looking.

They had 8 children, Robert (Mar 1751), Grace (Nov 1752), Thomas (Oct 1754, died May 1766), Elizabeth (Sep 1757), William (Sep 1758), Anne (Feb 1760), John (Nov 1767), Susan (1770, died 1777).

I descend from John, so our family tree follows down from there, but would be interesting to discover anything about the other branches. And if we could roll back any further than Robert, that would be brilliant.

[JenClark]

Hello & Welcome to Rootschat 

I can't see any link at this stage, but it is possible that your Everson & my Ibberson/Everson line may be connected somewhere further back.

In the 1750s my line were in Ramsey, Huntingdonshire about 60 miles from Stowmarket, Suffolk. Not particularly close, but not terribly far away I suppose. Have you come across any links to Ramsey in your research? Are there wills in your line that perhaps mention relatives in Huntingdonshire? Did you Robert Everson & Ann Tricker marry in Stowmarket or elsewhere? I note you have his birth as 1728, is this based on his age at death/marriage, or have you located a baptism? 

My direct ancestor Francis Ibberson married Carrina Overall on 24 Mar 1743/44 in Ramsey and they had at least 5 children: Margaret, John, Carrina, Henry & Francis. The family were baptist, so there are no baptism records for them in the parish registers. I have Francis' will proved 1781 and have followed all the children's lines down a generation or so.

The previous generation does not contain any other males that I am aware of - Francis was born abt 1696 and he was potentially the youngest of 7 children born to John Ibberson/Everson & Margaret Hunns who married 24 May 1686 in Ramsey: Margaret 1688-88, Susannah 1689, Margaret 1691, Ann 1693, Elizabeth 1694/5, Mary 1696, and Francis. I have John's will proved 1722.

John's father was Francis Ibberson/Everson of Ramsey. I have a copy of Francis' will proved 1693/4. He mentions his son John, and John's living daughters Susannah, Margaret & Ann, but no other Ibberson/Eversons. I presume this means that John was his only son. I have not been able to get further back than Francis to date. 

Interested to hear your thoughts...

Jenny

[EversonTree]

I'm fairly new to trying to expand on what we have already, which is essentially a handwritten family tree that was passed down through the generations. The belief was that prior to the family being in Suffolk, we went back to Lancastrian stock, but that is only what has been said, I've nothing prior to Robert (1728). But if that is the case, and we had family that did "move" around the country, then the 60 miles to Ramsey really is very little, and en route from where the family chatter had us originally.

Just starting to look into finding, or tracking down certificates to back up my line back to Robert now. Just picked up on your post, because the name link was relatively close in terms of dates, and the journey from Lancashire to Suffolk.

If I come across anything linking us to Ramsey, I'll let you know.

[JenClark]

Fair enough, good luck! It is a big task to work through and verify handwritten family trees...but an extremely important and satisfying one

At least you have somewhere to start, and some family stories to work with. Some of the things passed down in my family ended up being true, though some were much less accurate. That is the joy of family history research though, sorting it all out and finding the gems.

My family did move around a bit a couple of generations down, but seem to be fairly consistent with Ramsey in this time period. of Francis Ibberson & Carrina Overall's children a few remained in Ramsey, but one ended up in London, and my direct line ended up in Benwick, Cambridgeshire. Only a few miles away, though officially a different county. My line then spread to Doddington & Witcham in Cambridgeshire, and Mildenhall, Herringswell & Newmarket in Suffolk. Eventually my line leaves the UK for Australia. Whereabouts are you now, still in the UK or did your family emigrate too?

I have had a little look at the Suffolk parish registers (on Ancestry) and I can see Robert Everson & Ann Tricker marrying in Stowmarket on 21 June 1749. The entry just says single man and single woman, it does not state their parish or any other information unfortunately. I would assume they were 'of this parish' but it does not specifically say that. It is a shame the marriage wasn't after 1754 when you would have at least had a witness or two to work with.

The children that you have listed...were they baptised in Bentley?

I can see what looks like an additional child to this couple baptised in Stowmarket as below, looks like they were pregnant when they married:

Sarah D of Robert Everson & Ann his wife Decr 25th 1749

It is quite common for the first child to be born in the bride's parish, so perhaps Ann Tricker was from Stowmarket and Robert Everson was from Bentley? Or perhaps he wasn't from Bentley originally...the family may have just moved there after the first child was born??

There is a baptism for an Ann Tricker in Stowmarket as below, that is a possibility:

Ann D of Philip Tricker & Susan ux Jan 22 1726/7

Ux is short for uxor which is latin for wife, this Ann would have been 22 if she married in 1749. Her mother is named Susan too, which is one of the children's names...though they did not name a son Philip.

The parish register for Stowmarket in this time period is not in great condition and some names can't be read...so keep that in mind when you are looking for Robert Everson

Jenny