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Hübner - A clothmaking family
« on: Monday 11 September 23 08:03 BST (UK) »
I am currently researching the clothmaking family Hübner. The earliest known ancestor was Johann Daniel Hübner who was a master clothmaker and burgher of Budsin (Budzyń). The only record that mentions him is his son's marriage record in 1783. His son was Gottfried Benjamin Hübner who was born around 1753. The first known mentions of him in records was in the church records of Rogasen around 1777 as a Godfather in a luthrean church. He married in 1783 to Anna Dorothea Priebe in Kornik. They had a daughter in Kornik until moving to Zaniemysl circa 1785. They had some more children. He wound up dieing at the age of 55 in 1809 in Zaniemysl. He also had a younger brother, Daniel Bernhardt Hübner. Not a lot is known about him except for being listed as being payed by this older brother Gottfried in the School Lists.

If someone could find more about who Johann Daniel Hübner was, that would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Hübner - A clothmaking family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 September 23 09:08 BST (UK) »
I found this reference, held in Torun archives

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/jednostka/-/jednostka/13481985

Joh[ann] Daniel Hubner zaświadcza, że Joahim Ruhbau syn Joachima Christiana Ruhbau uczył się u niego rzemiosła przez okres 2 3/4 roku i opuścił warsztat za jego zgodą po uregulowaniu wszelkich należności.

Roughly means

Joh[ann] Daniel Hubner attests that Joahim Ruhbau, son of Joachim Christian Ruhbau, learned the craft from him for a period of 2 3/4 years and left the workshop with his consent after settling all debts.

I don't see anything that names the craft, but it may be worth following up.

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Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

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Re: Hübner - A clothmaking family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 September 23 09:20 BST (UK) »
I found this reference, held in Torun archives

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/jednostka/-/jednostka/13481985

Joh[ann] Daniel Hubner zaświadcza, że Joahim Ruhbau syn Joachima Christiana Ruhbau uczył się u niego rzemiosła przez okres 2 3/4 roku i opuścił warsztat za jego zgodą po uregulowaniu wszelkich należności.

Roughly means

Joh[ann] Daniel Hubner attests that Joahim Ruhbau, son of Joachim Christian Ruhbau, learned the craft from him for a period of 2 3/4 years and left the workshop with his consent after settling all debts.

I don't see anything that names the craft, but it may be worth following up.

Intresting. I dosent really mention any place in the document.
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- Kelly from County Kildare
- Donnelly from County Tyrone
- McKenna from County Tyrone/Moghanan

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Re: Hübner - A clothmaking family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 September 23 10:31 BST (UK) »
When you click on fiddlerslass' link, there is an option on the right side "Order larger format". You have to be logged in for this.
This might be a way of obtaining more text surrounding the snippet.
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Re: Hübner - A clothmaking family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 September 23 11:10 BST (UK) »
Clicking on the Fond description it looks like the record may pertain just to the Guild of goldsmiths, but there was a Guild of Clothmakers in Torun. Perhaps guild records for Budsin survive?

Are there records to be found because he was a Bürger of the town?
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR
 & N. YKS,
Crawhall & Ions Weardale
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Straka & others from Czechia
Endesfelder from Saxony
Ripke from Poland

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Re: Hübner - A clothmaking family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 September 23 12:39 BST (UK) »
Clicking on the Fond description it looks like the record may pertain just to the Guild of goldsmiths, but there was a Guild of Clothmakers in Torun. Perhaps guild records for Budsin survive?

Are there records to be found because he was a Bürger of the town?

I dont see anything. Mabye, there is a death record of Johann in Budsin around the 1780s/1790s. Mabye there is a census/popualtion list of Budsin around that time.
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- Kelly from County Kildare
- Donnelly from County Tyrone
- McKenna from County Tyrone/Moghanan

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Re: Hübner - A clothmaking family
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 January 25 01:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello "HistoricalGenealogy",
    I am descended from this Hübner family, and have written a booklet about them. I would be very interested in comparing notes, sources, etc. My version of the tree is available on ancestry.

  I'm new to this forum - I'm not sure how to end a message to one particular user.