Wedding gift lists 1930s

[Viktoria]

Apparently some French Huguenot women were known by the maiden name after marrying but not come across any in my tree yet, it may have been different after they emigrated. My ancestor born 1765 was the daughter of one of the last Huguenots to come to the UK in 1752.

Belgian women keep their maiden name but use it after their married name hyphenated.
So Anna Marie Desmet becomes Anna Marie Molenaar- DeSmet on her marriage to Wim Molenaar.

Viktoria.

[coombs]

Apparently some French Huguenot women were known by the maiden name after marrying but not come across any in my tree yet, it may have been different after they emigrated. My ancestor born 1765 was the daughter of one of the last Huguenots to come to the UK in 1752.

Belgian women keep their maiden name but use it after their married name hyphenated.
So Anna Marie Desmet becomes Anna Marie Molenaar- DeSmet on her marriage to Wim Molenaar.

Viktoria.

Very interesting, pity our UK women ancestors prior to July 1837 did not adopt this strategy. 

[Rena]

The groom can choose to change his surname to that of his bride if that's what the couple want.

I have a groom who changed his name to that of his bride in order that he  and their heirs could benefit from a Will. 

[louisa maud]

This has  been a very interesting subject.
I agree it would  be so easy to include the female's née name, but do we want it that easy, the thrill is in the chase.

LM

[Kiltpin]

The groom can choose to change his surname to that of his bride if that's what the couple want.

I have a groom who changed his name to that of his bride in order that he  and their heirs could benefit from a Will.

 

When personal Coats of Arms were far more prevalent, a "Name and Arms" clause was often put in a will by an unmarried uncle. That way, his name and coat of arms would be perpetuated. In exchange for which he would leave them all his possessions. 

Regards 

Chas

[coombs]

This has  been a very interesting subject.
I agree it would  be so easy to include the female's née name, but do we want it that easy, the thrill is in the chase.

LM

Yes that is true. I wonder how many 1800-1837 marriages that took place in England and Wales that are still as yet unindexed and/or online. Of course if the couple never married then there will be no record, saying that I have often found a banns or license issued, but no known subsequent marriage yet, and subsequent records show the couple stayed together.

[Rena]

Coombs:
" I wonder how many 1800-1837 marriages that took place in England and Wales that are still as yet unindexed and/or online. Of course if the couple never married then there will be no record, saying that I have often found a banns or license issued, but no known subsequent marriage yet, and subsequent records show the couple stayed together."

My paternal gt grandparents married in a local church then walked across the road to their new home. However, the church of St. Peters, where they married was bombed during WWII, which means the church registers were destroyed too.

Unfortunately these islands are quite damp and many parish records kept in church cellars tended to disintigrate due to the damp.

Some areas of the UK kept to their old customs of "hand fasting" in place of a church marriage, which meant they didn't have to pay marriage licence taxes to the government.  I have one church record where my ancestors apologised to the local church congregation for not being married in the kirk but had opted to make a marriage declaration to the local sheriff

I once saw a TV programme where a lady showed an interviewer a large book, stating that it had been in her family for generations and had originally belonged to her ancestor,, a parish vicar, who had kept the bmd records.  This shows that there were some clergy who kept the parish record register, claiming it as their own personal possession.

Some C of E clergy were extremely sloppy when it came to keeping decent records.  I have one parish in Yorkshire were the vicar kept minimum records such as "WS a son".  By far the best kept records were written by the Ev. Lutheran clergy, who recorded parents, occupations and villages of the in-laws as well as the bride and groom plus names, occupations and villages of witnesses. Baptisms showed name of baby, names of parents and names of grandparents and witnesses,  plus occupations where necessary.

[Rena]

Apparently some French Huguenot women were known by the maiden name after marrying but not come across any in my tree yet, it may have been different after they emigrated. My ancestor born 1765 was the daughter of one of the last Huguenots to come to the UK in 1752.

Belgian women keep their maiden name but use it after their married name hyphenated.
So Anna Marie Desmet becomes Anna Marie Molenaar- DeSmet on her marriage to Wim Molenaar.

Viktoria.

Very interesting, pity our UK women ancestors prior to July 1837 did not adopt this strategy. 

Officially married wives were "chattels" (legally "owned" by their husbands).

Old customs are hard to break and I know that  both my parents, together with their siblings and their parents always used the original surnames of their friends and relatives.

Due to hearing my mother and her siblings discussing their relatives and pals I was able to help the descendants of my grandma's step siblings;  "The Bannisters".  Additionally my mother's best school pal was a "Mary White" and I remember we visited Mary White in her first marital home and then in her new marital home.  She was always "Mary White" and even though I met her husband I have no idea of his name :-)

[coombs]

Coombs:
" I wonder how many 1800-1837 marriages that took place in England and Wales that are still as yet unindexed and/or online. Of course if the couple never married then there will be no record, saying that I have often found a banns or license issued, but no known subsequent marriage yet, and subsequent records show the couple stayed together."

My paternal gt grandparents married in a local church then walked across the road to their new home. However, the church of St. Peters, where they married was bombed during WWII, which means the church registers were destroyed too.

Unfortunately these islands are quite damp and many parish records kept in church cellars tended to disintigrate due to the damp.

Some areas of the UK kept to their old customs of "hand fasting" in place of a church marriage, which meant they didn't have to pay marriage licence taxes to the government.  I have one church record where my ancestors apologised to the local church congregation for not being married in the kirk but had opted to make a marriage declaration to the local sheriff

I once saw a TV programme where a lady showed an interviewer a large book, stating that it had been in her family for generations and had originally belonged to her ancestor,, a parish vicar, who had kept the bmd records.  This shows that there were some clergy who kept the parish record register, claiming it as their own personal possession.

Some C of E clergy were extremely sloppy when it came to keeping decent records.  I have one parish in Yorkshire were the vicar kept minimum records such as "WS a son".  By far the best kept records were written by the Ev. Lutheran clergy, who recorded parents, occupations and villages of the in-laws as well as the bride and groom plus names, occupations and villages of witnesses. Baptisms showed name of baby, names of parents and names of grandparents and witnesses,  plus occupations where necessary.

There was a church in Norwich which did not survive Hitler's bombs either, I think the original registers were destroyed, but their bishops transcripts survive and I found a 1754 baptism of an elder sister of an ancestor who I always thought was the firstborn overall of the couple. The couple wed in October 1752, and my ancestor was born early 1756.