Child dying before sending off Census - The Wades

[toby_ax]

Hi all,

I have a census record from my 2nd Great Grandfather. The family were poor and suffered many infant and child deaths. So much so that on pictures of them, I struggle to pick out which child is who, some remain undetermined. I am certain that there are more to discover considering the 100 year period of anonymity with the GRO index.

Anyways getting away from my original point.
On this census record in 1911. David Wade has filled in the census, himself, his wife Charlotte Wade (Nee Sugden), His son Arthur Wade, and his daughter Sarah Ann Wade.

But, there are crosses through the name Arthur, and written next to it are the words (Dead)

It looks to me as that Arthur Wade died Sep 1910  but I may be wrong. (Census is again 1911.)

I am wondering if David personally had to cross out his son's name and write the remark 'dead' as Arthur had passed before sending off the census or if this would have been done at the office the census was sent to.

This is purely for my own curiosity and just so I can know for certain, but the former would be far more upsetting.

At the bottom suggests 1 male, and 2 females, which would disregard Arthur, but I have no knowledge on census in this respect, and wether David would have filled this box out or if the 'census people  ' would have. And if Arthur had have died before sending this census off, why is there no correction from 2 males, to 1 male. Edit: I have seen this says enumerator, but still doesn't answer my question as to wether David would have crossed Arthurs name out and simply but (Dead) of if the 'enumerator' would have done this.

See census below.

Many thanks for your time reading!

[CaroleW]

It's more likely he did it himself.  He probably thought he had to list all children then realised it was living ones only

[CaroleW]

The marriage was 1906 - these are the Wade/Sugden children listed on GRO online to end of 1911

John Sept qtr 1906 - died same qtr
Arthur - Dec qtr 1907 - died Sept qtr 1910
Esther Sept qtr 1908 - no death on freebmd or GRO online
Sarah Ann Sept qtr 1909
George Dec qtr 1911 - after census

There is another Wade/Sugden marriage in the North Bierley RD in 1912 ( Albert & Edith) so the 2 children b 1913 & 1915 could be theirs

[chempat]

You have put 'I am certain that there are more to discover considering the 100 year period of anonymity with the GRO index.'   What period of anonymity are you referring to, please?

[toby_ax]

You have put 'I am certain that there are more to discover considering the 100 year period of anonymity with the GRO index.'   What period of anonymity are you referring to, please?

I am unsure as to wether anonymity is the right word.
I am unable to confirm that any wades born in Shipley, West Yorkshire, are there's without mothers maiden names which are only avaliable after a 100 year period. Although birth certificates would be able to confirm for definite but I am currently unable to purchase all wade Birth certificates registered in North Bierley during this period.

Although Caroles post may undermine all I have thought.

[CaroleW]

Mothers maiden names do not appear on freebmd until 1912 but are available free on GRO online

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Registration is free unless you already have a login

All the children listed above were registered in the North Bierley RD as was the 1906 marriage

[toby_ax]

There is another Wade/Sugden marriage in the North Bierley RD in 1912 ( Albert & Edith) so the 2 children b 1913 & 1915 could be theirs

Thank you for this, as I was completely unaware of this. Thank you!
I believe John is one of mine, as he is from before Albert and Edith marriage and Charlottes father was John, If it is the right child they also had a John in 1923 if I remember rightly, also called John but I may have to trace Albert and Edith's whereabouts due to this revelation to confirm further.

Arthur is mine.
And George and Sarah Ann too.

Esther is unknown to me as I had not encountered her birth on my search for the Wade's children, she definitely did not reach adulthood if it is one of my Wades.

Horace born 1915 and dying in 1917 is mine thanks to news articles to confirm, and luckily I have a picture of him!

edit: Oh and the 1913 one is mine too, he is my great grandfather 

Thanks for introducing me to this revelation! I better further investigate those I have on my tree. Those who reached adulthood are easy, but my Aunt recounts the numerous infant deaths the family had.

Very sad if David did have cross out his son's name. He had a very hard life from what I am aware of which was later brought on by the war.

Thanks again. Will Investigate.

[toby_ax]

but are available free on GRO online

Hi Carole, I am aware, but I believe they also had children (who passed young) past 1923 (which I believe is when mothers maiden name stops appearing) which is what I was referring to. Thanks 

[Stanwix England]

I think Carole W is probably right about why the dead child was entered and then crossed out. I've seen other people get tripped up by this form and make similar mistakes. I think that maybe the layout confused people a little.

I think it might be partly because the 1911 census was quite a step up from what the 1901 census and all previous censuses asked for. And how much experience did your average person in 1911 have of filling in a form? Probably didn't have to do it that often. In comparison, we seem to have to fill in forms on an almost daily basis, at least I do what with work commitments, school commitments etc etc.