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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:17 BST (UK) »
Yes - James Bagley  and Charles Mansfield  appear to sign off the registers each year.   There's also  ?? S Parry. One entry has Bagley as !st, Mansfield as 2nd and ?Parry as 3rd.  Portioners
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« Reply #28 on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:28 BST (UK) »
Coming a bit late to this ~

Marriage place is recorded as Burford - 3rd Portion (St Mary) on the transcription

A larger snip

I think you have given us a clue as to what might be occurring, Gadget.

F m p also transcribes and mentions 3rd Portion.

The Burford Shropshire Register at the end of 1703, (pencil page numbering 186) says:-

J. Bayly 1d                   )
Charles Mauffield 2d ) Portions
Amb: Sparry 3d           )

It seems the Parish was split into Portions and the events in the Register acknowledge who provided that information.

P C M means - Portion Charles Mauffield (the source).

See also end of 1700.

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Added later: line should read
Charles Mansfield 2d ) Portioners

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« Reply #29 on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:33 BST (UK) »
e.g Mark




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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:38 BST (UK) »
I think that 'Portioner' refers to Tithes. In this case the Tithes would be devided into 3 portions. 

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« Reply #31 on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget

Your image is what I was trying to transcribe, thanks.

If the poster refers to the end of 1699 it said 1700 a note about Burford Parish had Chapells, so the Register was made up of information from the Church and information from those responsible at the Chapels.

There were also Two Churchwardens too.

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« Reply #32 on: Saturday 09 September 23 14:45 BST (UK) »
So it seems to be sorted - that’s good news.  :)
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« Reply #33 on: Saturday 09 September 23 15:07 BST (UK) »
Following up, Mark

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Burford

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The living is a rectory* in the diocese of Hereford, in three portions: the first, value with the perpetual curacies of Boraston and Nash, 1460; the second, value with the perpetual curacy of Whitton, 2286; and the third, value £335, all in the patronage of Lord Northwick
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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 09 September 23 15:55 BST (UK) »
Burford, Shropshire

Actually, looking at the page, the same initials occur on a lot of entries, and some other initials on others. Could it just be the initials of the vicar or other person ...

Just an idea.
If I have read and interpreted this correctly, there was a Charles Mansfield, rector in 1695 who was buried in 1732. I don't know what ‘P’ would be though  :-\

https://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Burford.html

Scroll down to ‘Rectors of Burford, 2nd Portion’.

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Charles Mansfield was Portioner in Burford.


The Burford Shropshire Register at the end of 1703, (pencil page numbering 186) says:-

J. Bayly 1d                    )
*Charles Mauffield 2d ) Portion[er]s
Amb: Sparry 3d            )

It seems the Parish was split into Portions and the events in the Register acknowledge who provided that information.

P C M means - Portion[er] Charles Mauffield * (the source).

See also end of 1700.

Mark
* Charles Mansfield

Thanks Gadget

Your image is what I was trying to transcribe, thanks.

If the poster refers to the end of 1699 it said 1700 a note about Burford Parish had Chapells, so the Register was made up of information from the Church and information from those responsible at the Chapels.

There were also Two Churchwardens too.

Mark

The Parish of Burford had a Church and "Chappels".
See attachment.

Following up, Mark

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Burford

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The living is a rectory* in the diocese of Hereford, in three portions: the first, value with the perpetual curacies of Boraston and Nash, 1460; the second, value with the perpetual curacy of Whitton, 2286; and the third, value £335, all in the patronage of Lord Northwick

Interesting find Gadget regarding Burford about Boraston, Nash and Whitton.

The Burford Register mentions the Chapels of Nash and Whitton. The Chapel of Burraston.

Yes I agree your image Reply #29 says they were Portioners.

Mark