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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 09 September 23 09:52 BST (UK) »
Also if you look in 1704. Baptized John son of Nicholas Piede of Weston Par. And Susan his wife Feby. 18th p JB .

JB - James Bailey, 1695 - presumably on from there?
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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 09 September 23 10:03 BST (UK) »
heywood asked:  "Why not just write Cleobury Mortimer if they came from there."

Because Cleobury Mortimer was a relatively populous parish and the need to refer to it arose frequently in the register, so a fair amount of wrist action was saved by abbreviating it to C.M.

(It was only the bride who came from there.)

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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 09 September 23 10:38 BST (UK) »
Thank  you.
I understand about place/parish abbreviations but it would just read C M and not P C M, in that case. I thought perhaps Burford was her parish as the marriage took place there.
However, just my thoughts. I had best leave it there.  ;)
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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 09 September 23 11:00 BST (UK) »
heywood, as I said earlier, the P stands for Parish.  It seems usual enough to say Parish of Cleobury Mortimer.


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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 09 September 23 11:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone. I am glad one of you managed to attach an image because when I tried it said it was too big a file. I think your conjectures that the abbreviation may refer to Susan's parish may have merit but I wonder why in Nicholas's case it was written out in full and not with her. I need to go through this register more fully I think as some of you have done.

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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 09 September 23 11:20 BST (UK) »
There is another marriage on the same page where the groom is from somewhere that looks like Bental and the bride is from Burford, and still we have P C M. 

I am on the side of per Charles Mansfield


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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 09 September 23 12:42 BST (UK) »
Burford, March to May 1703

On one it says "P C M & Affid t"

So Affid t or Affid't was an abbreviation of Affidavit or sworn oath or similar document.

So that event probably had two sources - P C M & Affidavit.

If it posts you will also see P S R? and other letters, as well as P J B and P C M

It won't post.

To me, it seems to be the source/s of the information. A bit of a get-out  ;) I know.

One line at/near the bottom has a name after Affidt.

I would also be interested to know if Bookbox has seen these as old abbreviations somewhere before?

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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 09 September 23 13:33 BST (UK) »
Coming a bit late to this ~

Marriage place is recorded as Burford - 3rd Portion (St Mary) on the transcription

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Re: Abbreviation p.c.m.
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 09 September 23 13:40 BST (UK) »
I think we agree on the place.
The letters, I think, are p C M - the ‘p’ being lower case which would fit with ‘per Charles Mansfield’.
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