Emigration route for Australia in 19th century

[Gerryk]

Hi,
I'm wondering about the route that emigrants from the South of Ireland might have taken around 1880.
I know some relatives ended up in Australia and New Zealand. I'm wondering would their route have taken any of them through the USA at all.
Many thanks for any hel.

Gerry

[Wexflyer]

Hi,
I'm wondering about the route that emigrants from the South of Ireland might have taken around 1880.
I know some relatives ended up in Australia and New Zealand. I'm wondering would their route have taken any of them through the USA at all.
Many thanks for any hel.

Gerry

While not impossible, I don't think there was any established route via the US.

[shanreagh]

The point is that immigrants from Ireland left from many different places especially in those times where they may have had access to immigration schemes and these were managed by people who had access to ships leaving from all round England and Ireland.

My Gt grandparents came out separately, he and 5 children came out leaving from Liverpool via the Canaries and around the Cape to Freemantle Hobart (just checked) and then to NZ.  My Gt grandmother and their 18mth old left from Plymouth the next year 1885, not sure what her stops were.  Just checked Plymouth, Teneriffe, Capetown, Auckland
I think there were fairly frequent shipping routes to the US and I have heard of some families who came on to NZ (& presumably Australia) later having travelled across the US to the West Coast and joined a ship there. 

[Cats1723]

the Suez canal opened on the   17 November 1869. So they probably went from Ireland, through the straights of Gilbralter, sailing across the Mediterranean   sea to Egypt on onto the red sea and then the Indian sea.
Before the Suez canal opened it was a very long voyage, the original 1st fleet, sailed from Portsmouth, to the canary islands then to Rio de Janeiro, to the cape of good hope, and  then Australia, this route avoided the much more dangerous Cape Horn.

[giblet]

If you know the name of the ship and approx dates sometimes it gets a mention in Trove [newspapers] stating when and where the ship is.

EXAMPLE.. The Lusitania, Orient liner, arrived in Sydney on Saturday, 14lH January, from London via Suez Canal, and is announced to take her departure on the 20ib Jan.


https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers

[shanreagh]

The point is that immigrants from Ireland left from many different places especially in those times where they may have had access to immigration schemes and these were managed by people who had access to ships leaving from all round England and Ireland.

My Gt grandparents came out separately, he and 5 children came out leaving from Liverpool via the Canaries and around the Cape to Freemantle and then to NZ.  My Gt grandmother and their 18mth old left from Plymouth, not sure what her stops were.

I think there were fairly frequent shipping routes to the US and I have heard of some families who came on to NZ (& presumably Australia) later having travelled across the US to the West Coast and joined a ship there.

I've just found a telegram from Reuters to NZ papers saying that the Ruapehu, that my Gt grandfather and children came out on, had just left Teneriffe, Oct 1885. There was a stop in Teneriffe and my gt grandfather went ashore and brought back oranges and it was the first time the children had seen them. 

[Elwyn Soutter]

In my experience, though there were a few sailings to Australia from Ireland, most people bound for Australia or New Zealand joined ships in Plymouth, Tilbury or Southampton. There were regular sailings from Cork to Plymouth for example, which then continued on to London.  If emigrating, some shipping agents even threw in passage from Ireland to England as part of the overall ticket price.

I have come across people who travelled via the US but as far as I can tell they originally intended to settle in the US but for some reason changed their minds after a short stay there, and so travelled on. For them I don't think Australia was the intended destination when they left Ireland.  In most cases they would have had to cross America, which meant it was not a very convenient route.

[shanreagh]

In my experience, though there were a few sailings to Australia from Ireland, most people bound for Australia or New Zealand joined ships in Plymouth, Tilbury or Southampton. There were regular sailings from Cork to Plymouth for example, which then continued on to London.  If emigrating, some shipping agents even threw in passage from Ireland to England as part of the overall ticket price.

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Yes this has been my experience though perhaps OP has family who came out later, perhaps in early 20th Century.  The trip to Plymouth etc was looked on by the children at least as part of the big adventure!

[Kiltaglassan]

Interesting article about the journey to Australia and especially the use of steam ships carrying immigrants in the 1880's.

https://museumsvictoria.com.au/immigrationmuseum/resources/journeys-to-australia/