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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:17 BST (UK) »
Cannot be certain that she is the correct one & that Agnes is her mother, but looks promising. It will take some investigating.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:25 BST (UK) »
Cannot be certain that she is the correct one & that Agnes is her mother, but looks promising. It will take some investigating.
I get you Klou, we are looking at probabilities. Thanks for that, I will speak to the 'baby's' son to see if he can compliment anything further. The problem, as you will know, is the 'shame' around an illegitimate birth at the time, and the secrecy that comes out of it. Thanks again, that does look promising.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:28 BST (UK) »
Why would she be "Mrs" if she wasn't married?

Mrs was frequently used as a respectful title for spinsters in service … have a look at Downton with Mrs Hughes and Mrs Patmore both spinsters in the first few series’ but still called Mrs

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:29 BST (UK) »
I would also suggest that DNA is the way to go in this situation.
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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:32 BST (UK) »
On the 1911 census, there is a Agnes B Graham, age 13, listed as the daughter of a George Whitten & his wife Maggie (nee Graham), age 31. Could Agnes, age 68 in 1921, be her grandmother?

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:34 BST (UK) »
I would also suggest that DNA is the way to go in this situation.
Nesta
Apparently he has already done a DNA test, but I have not seen the results. I cannot talk with him until tomorrow, thanks

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:36 BST (UK) »
On the 1911 census, there is a Agnes B Graham, age 13, listed as the daughter of a George Whitten & his wife Maggie (nee Graham), age 31. Could Agnes, age 68 in 1921, be her grandmother?
From memory the Pollokshields connection may prove promising.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:39 BST (UK) »
A Hugh Brown Graham married a Maggie Minto, 1897. Daughter, Agnes Brown Graham, born 1898. Hugh died 1901, MMN Brown.

George Whitten married Maggie, 1903.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:44 BST (UK) »
A Hugh Brown Graham married a Maggie Minto, 1897. Daughter, Agnes Brown Graham, born 1898. Hugh died 1901, MMN Brown.

George Whitten married Maggie, 1903.
I came across this on Scotland's people site using your proposed dates for the age of the mother in 1916 being 17-18. I could not miss the name 'Minto'.

GRAHAM
AGNES BROWN
MINTO
F
1898
654 / 157
RUTHERGLEN