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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 15:27 BST (UK) »
I looked up the address, 135 Paisley Road West, on 1915/20 Val. Roll. There were 8 persons listed, at the tenement building, none of which was Graham.
Thanks Klou, can I ask you for the other surnames please? Just in case they ring a bell with someone.
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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 16:25 BST (UK) »
The birth was registered as just Agnes Graham, but seemed to be changed to Grace Agnes Mac?????.

The names on 1915 roll were, Brown, Clark, Folley, MacKenzie (Mrs), MacLeod, MacTeague, Montgomerie, Neave.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 16:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Pockets

I would try having a look for the named mother in any marriages after 1916  (maybe try 5 or 6 years worth) this should narrow down how many Agnes Graham's. 

Is AG on the 1921 census?

I would also look on Electoral registers for Agnes. Remember no voting during the war. By 1928 we should be getting the younger women on the Er's.

I agree, you should try and find out more about the address given on the b/c.  It may be a maternity home? Home of a relative? Bedsit etc.  But it may offer up some further clues.

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Hi cal, thanks for that. The problem is that I don't have anything with which to cross reference Agnes Graham. The only connection is the child born Jan 1916, but she was fostered etc as was the understanding of the time before the Act of 1930.
I did try to get her birth by looking at AG's from 1890 to 1900. there are about 80 of them, but even if I look them up I have nothing with which to identify her with. I don't even know in what area she lived., theoretically, although highly unlikely, she might not even be Scots born.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 16:30 BST (UK) »
The birth was registered as just Agnes Graham, but seemed to be changed to Grace Agnes Mac?????.

The names on 1915 roll were, Brown, Clark, Folley, MacKenzie (Mrs), MacLeod, MacTeague, Montgomerie, Neave.
Thanks klou, I will ask, but I am not hopeful. Stranger things as they say. Thanks again, Pockets.


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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 18:32 BST (UK) »
From the Val. Roll, 1915/20, a Mrs Agnes Graham, had land in Paisley Road West.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 18:39 BST (UK) »
From the Val. Roll, 1915/20, a Mrs Agnes Graham, had land in Paisley Road West.
It doesn't really fit with the mother's job title, "Domestic servant". I think Agnes Graham is quite a common name throughout Scotland at that time. Even if there was a link, how would one go about proving it? I'm beginning to think this is a lost cause. I could look through all 80, or so, of the births in Scotland for an Agnes Graham from 1890 to 1916, but even if the mother fits with this criteria I have nothing with which to verify who she is. I don't even know her age.

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 18:50 BST (UK) »
Mrs Agnes Graham was Agnes's mother. Agnes B, Graham, Servant, age 23, on 1921 census, working for The McConnell family, 80, Kirkcaldy Rd, Pollokshields.

Mrs Agnes Graham, age 68, living at 98, Kirkcaldy Rd with a relative, Mary E Graham, age 40

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:09 BST (UK) »
Mrs Agnes Graham was Agnes's mother. Agnes B, Graham, Servant, age 23, on 1921 census, working for The McConnell family, 80, Kirkcaldy Rd, Pollokshields.

Mrs Agnes Graham, age 68, living at 98, Kirkcaldy Rd with a relative, Mary E Graham, age 40
That looks amazing Klou, how do you get to these conclusions?

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Re: Finding the mother of an "illegitimate" birth in Scotland 1916
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 06 September 23 19:12 BST (UK) »
Why would she be "Mrs" if she wasn't married?