What surname is this?

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neelawson, looks as though when your grandfather married in 1905 it was a double wedding. His sister Mary Ann Brown(1880)married John Hasson, same day and place. Mary Ann Hasson died 1963. Did Frank die 23rd October 1952?

SS

[neelawson]

Well I never, probably to save money I'd have thought. Thanks for that!

[softly softly]

I amended my post after your reply, see my question re Frank

SS

[neelawson]

I amended my post after your reply, see my question re Frank

SS

Yes that's correct info re Frank's death

[neelawson]

I am the grandson of the Frank Brown mentioned in posts and it now seems my paternal great grandmother was the Ann Turley/Brown/Hauxwell nee Warters who's mentioned in posts. Much to my surprise she can't be the 'Mrs Brown' who I'd thought was my paternal great grandmother as Ann died in 1898 and I have 2 press cuttings of 'Mrs Brown' from the Middlesbrough-based North Eastern Daily Gazette, one from 28 July 1932 and one probably from 1934. In both she is named on a pensioners' outing from Newport area of Middlesbrough and attributed the ages of 87 and 89 respectively so born about 1845. These cuttings were with other family photos hence my assumption that the lady in question was my great grandmother, now she's a mystery.

I did find a lady who could match this (name and d of b) description in the later censues . However, she was b. Co Durham and later lived in Brompton.
It might be that a search for her death could be the only way to find this lady and her possible link to Frank.

Gadget

I found 2 x Mrs Brown who died in Middlesbrough and fit the age profile in the press cuttings. Lydia died age 89 (vol 9d page 676  in Q2 1935)  born 1846 Teresa age 91 (vol 9d p 884 in Q1 1936) born 1844. They're both in Middlesbrough 1921 census too but I haven't had time to check further back as i'm just about to go on holiday!

[dobfarm]

And the Browns

John Brown  in 1841

Allerston

Francis Brown, 45, Ag Lab
Elizabeth,45
Charles, 10
Sarah, 9
Ann, 7
mary, 6
John 4
Hannah, 2
Ruth, 1 mth

All b. Yorkshire



Gadget

The death could be right but the marriage (iffy) seems the only one that fits them names

A very long shot of Mrs Brown age 89 1934 Middlesbrough newspaper clipping

Charles Edgar Brown
x x x marriage Sunderland qtr Sept 1907 10a - 1296
Teresa Graldie                        (Other woman in list Alice Josephine Renwick)

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Its possible Mrs Brown was Miss Teresa Brown (death below 1936 age 91) born 1845 Cheltenham, -a school teacher Kinder garden Middesbrough status single in censuses years
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Teresa Brown death age 91 March qtr 1936 Middlesbrough  9d - 884

[Gadget]

Dobfam ~

That's a big jump - the Charles that you highlighted on the 1841 was aged 10. He would have been over 70 in 1907 !!

[dobfarm]

Dobfam ~

That's a big jump - the Charles that you highlighted on the 1841 was aged 10. He would have been over 70 in 1907 !!

You are most likely right.

It did pass my mind Charles age being 76 in 1907 and Mrs Brown being 89 in 1935 - age 61 in 1907 but I'm 73 still think young,    and talk to many couples on the bus with an age difference 10 to 15 years of age - remarried of similar age differences after losing their married partners to death - more for company. My granddad died age 90 an ex ag lab was an out and about  lively chap right up weeks before he died after a sudden  heart attack.

Therefore its possible but very unlikely as I think the school teacher was the single lady in the newspaper cuttings wrongly quoted taken for granted as a Mrs not Miss Brown at her age.

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There was another boy of Francis Brown called  Nellis Brown (Could have been a girl ? as an after thought & needs checking) by later census years but nothing info wise fitted with him to Mrs Brown 89 years old in 1935. Middlesbrough but another search by another fresh pair of eyes looking may find something.