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Re: Missing birth Records1858,1859,1860.
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 09 September 23 10:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

 rosie99 thank you for the 1861 Information, I shall get a copy for my paper trail.  My BIG DOC info had Homerton  as place of birth but not much else. 


jonw65  Yes I have that with all other addresses so far mentioned. None so far are the same so they moved about quite frequently.

 I was puzzled by the Clerk at Lloyds for Occupation too. It doesn't seem to fit . Thus I am suspicious of the validity. However it is quite clear on the image . I have enlarged them to make sure of the text. 
Eliza was the informant so it's what she told the register.   The two boys were baptised just after Robert was born.  The drapery and woollen trade all fit with other occupations ie Tailor within the family. 

allanpeter. 
 Hi and welcome. yes I have been digging.. i  like tying off loose ends and filling holes in  the information.   

Robert and Emily definitely aren't twins.  I have a Birth Registration image for two of these three children.  I shall get the other one shortly and come back.
What we really need are the Parish Baptism record Images of the entries by the Priests.    Too often now we only get compiled indexes. 

Sorry to disappoint you with Emily Maud Goringe .  Yes a bit sad. and no cousins as far as I know at present. 

I'll be back as long as the connection holds out.
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Re: Missing birth Records1858,1859,1860.
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 10 September 23 07:43 BST (UK) »
 

Good Day everyone.

jonw65:   
Opps .. i had a question but I see that the surname was "MUNROE" NOT MONROE as for the other two. so I shall go look. 

allanpeter; from what I have Alfred Gorringe was a widower when he married Emily.  i found a copy of the Marriage Licence application that he made. He also went to Canada so perhaps that might be helpful for cousins.

Once i have that image I will return.
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Re: Missing birth Records1858,1859,1860.
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 10 September 23 09:41 BST (UK) »


Good Day everyone.

jonw65:   
Opps .. i had a question but I see that the surname was "MUNROE" NOT MONROE as for the other two. so I shall go look. 

allanpeter; from what I have Alfred Gorringe was a widower when he married Emily.  i found a copy of the Marriage Licence application that he made. He also went to Canada so perhaps that might be helpful for cousins.

Once i have that image I will return.
 Essnell

Alfred William Gorringe 1st marriage in 1868 image is on Anc* I don't like to question but what evidence do you have that he went to Canada.

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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 06:22 BST (UK) »
hello Everyone,  Finally back with some information.

First though I need to apologize to allanpeter and softly softly  re Alfred William Gorringe. I  thought he went with Emily but that seems to not have happened so I really do not know either way and all my documents have no reference to that.   I have been trying to piece together the immigration to Canada and that seems to be complicated as Emily could have cone there and returned to England and then back to Canada. One document mentions a friend in California so I'm, still looking at this. 

Now back to the three first children of James Monroe {?} and Elizabeth Taylor. 

I have now got the birth record for Robert Henry Munroe  :

DOB 15th November 1858
 Place of birth :   14 George Street [this matches the address on the two boys Baptisms - jonw65]
 Father: James MUNROE 
Mother:  Elizabeth Byzanter Munroe formerly Taylor.
 Father Occupation:  Woollen Manufacturer.
Informant is Elizabeth  and she is at 14 George Street, South Hackney. 
The registration was done on the 27th December 1858.

 Emily was not born till the 25th June 1860  - so Robert and Emily were not twins.

I also got Elizabeth's Death Certificate 12th Dec. 1917. She was at 44 Hawley Square U.D. 
Described as Widow of James Mornement, Clerk in Wool Warehouse.
Her Daughter Louisa Mornement [Turner] was the informant.

Okay   i have the answer to my question with a few extras so thanks everyone for your assistance - really appreciate it.

 :) Essnell





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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 07:58 BST (UK) »
Enjoyable post, glad answers were found by various RC's.

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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 12 September 23 09:39 BST (UK) »
Umm  Hello  , well, I though I had got enough, but I was determined to find Elizabeths' father and Mother   

I cannot find Arthur Richard Taylor.    Would this be Eliza's Parents ----

Pallot's marriage reg.    TAYLOR Richard  1827  == Mary Ann Gallant 
                                    DUNSTAN,  STEPNEY

THEN THIS:  Marriage by Banns,   Richard Taylor and Mary Ann Gallant  25th Nov 1827.
                                   Tower Hamlets, Stepney, St Dunstan, London, England.
It is signed by both Richard and Mary. 

I also found Elizabeth's Baptism -  born on the 8th February 1837.  St Dunstan, Stepney, Mile End Old Town.     Main Record is for:  London, Docklands and East End Baptisms.

Richard was a Clerk in the Docks.

So How about that .  Wonderful.

Thanks everyone!.  Essnell

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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 27 September 23 11:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Rootschatters: 

Over the last week I have been in contact with another person also researching this family further back.
We are both having problems with that research; 

Would it be best to reopen this here or start afresh with a new thread? 
it concerns Arthur Richard Taylor's parents.

 Essnell