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Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« on: Thursday 31 August 23 09:23 BST (UK) »
We are now coming up to the era where people  descended from test tube babies could come up as DNA matches

Has anyone else had experience of this?.
My mother matched the child of an American sperm doner

  this procedure has existed in UK since 1958

 I Wonder if there was an age limit for men taking part . ?

& How many mother's thought their children would never learn about this .modern day DNA results could leave their children thinking that they were the result of an affair


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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 August 23 14:32 BST (UK) »
Hard to believe that Louise Brown is now 45, seems like only yesterday when her birth hit the headlines all over the world.

Also begs the question of what a child is told if his “Dad” and birth Mother who both raises him or her as their own child when the birth Mother was actually a surrogate for another Woman’s egg and the sperm used to fertilise the egg is not from the man the child knows as Dad?

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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 August 23 15:38 BST (UK) »
I agree

It would also throw a spanner in DNA match results if a different woman's eggs were used .
There were a few media cases where mistakes had been found or legal issues raised



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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 August 23 15:46 BST (UK) »
Anyone trying to trace their royal lines back

Should be cautious about possible infidelity along their lines

But who would have thought artificial insemination  would date back to HENRY IV

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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 August 23 21:15 BST (UK) »
Poor old Danny Dyer may have to get his royal line DNA tested.  ;)

You do not always know who the mother is either, in cases such as the recorded mother was the grandmother and the mother was the baby's "much older sister", to cover up an illegitimate birth. I am sure that is the case for my 3xgreat gran Clara whose recorded mother was 51 at the time, yet Clara had a much older sisters first name as a middle name.



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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 August 23 21:26 BST (UK) »
It's been going on a lot, I've heard.

In some cases it's exposed so called 'Fertility Fraud' where the doctor performing the fertility procedure has been found to have fraudulently been the donor.

https://www.theverge.com/c/23157354/doctor-donor-fertility-fraud-ancestry-23andme-dna-test
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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 August 23 21:27 BST (UK) »
Poor old Danny Dyer may have to get his royal line DNA tested.  ;)

You do not always know who the mother is either, in cases such as the recorded mother was the grandmother and the mother was the baby's "much older sister", to cover up an illegitimate birth. I am sure that is the case for my 3xgreat gran Clara whose recorded mother was 51 at the time, yet Clara had a much older sisters first name as a middle name.

Hey Coombs

Don’t go dissing my Cousin Danny

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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 August 23 21:36 BST (UK) »
Poor old Danny Dyer may have to get his royal line DNA tested.  ;)

You do not always know who the mother is either, in cases such as the recorded mother was the grandmother and the mother was the baby's "much older sister", to cover up an illegitimate birth. I am sure that is the case for my 3xgreat gran Clara whose recorded mother was 51 at the time, yet Clara had a much older sisters first name as a middle name.

Hey Coombs

Don’t go dissing my Cousin Danny

 :D

I am also his cousin as well, due to my gateway ancestor.  ;D



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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
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Re: Unexpected parentage (NPE ) could it be sperm.donation
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 September 23 06:36 BST (UK) »
I am reminded of a story in William Shatner's "Weird or What?" TV series: A woman was prosecuted for fraudulently claiming child support payments as the children's DNA didn't match hers. This surprised her, as she'd been there when they were born. Her lawyer unearthed a similar case where it was explained that the mother was originally going to be a twin, but the eggs coalesced resulting in different DNA depending where in her body the samples came from. Further tests led to a "not guilty" verdict.
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