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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #90 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 09:16 GMT (UK) »

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The information that you gave about them being in Culramoney was all new.
I had to check where that area was, and I believe it to be in Stranocum, civil parish of Ballymoney, Dunluce Upper.

Culramoney townland links-

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/dunluce-upper/ballymoney/stranocum/culramoney/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2895967#map=13/55.0885/-6.4744


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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #91 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 12:21 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, Kiltaglassan.

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #92 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 13:15 GMT (UK) »

You're very welcome, pablo1  :D

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #93 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 22:40 GMT (UK) »
I've a suspicion it's actually Curramoney aka Billy in the parish of Billy:

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/dunluce-lower/billy/bushmills/curramoney/

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/9b31e0501b744154b4584b1dce1f859b/page/Place-Name-Info/?data_id=dataSource_1-PlaceNames_Gazeteer_No_Global_IDs_3734%3A15666

e.g.

ROD 279/634/184779
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-99MF-Q?cat=185720
Memorial of a lease dated 1st Nov 1761 between James Stewart then of Billy, Co Antrim, Esq., and Robert Dean of Egrey [Eagry, Billy parish], since deceased.  Stewart granted Dean lands of Eyre bounded on the north by the high way, on the south by James Anderson's holding, on the west by the brooke joining Ballyness, and at the distance of three foot from the flax mill race and the acre formerly possessed by David McMullan, containing 24a 1r 20p.  For 31 years under rent of £12 1s plus 6%, plus two barrels of coals to be carried to James Stewart's house in Coleraine during the time his family lives there.  Witnessed by William Shaw of Antrim, Co Antrim, and John McLaa [?] of Curramoney, pa Billy, farmer.  Memorial witnessed by said John McCaa and by Alexander Calderwood of Ballymoney, merchant.  Signed and sealed by Archibald Dean and Samuel Dean, sons to Robert Dean.


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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #94 on: Monday 13 November 23 22:13 GMT (UK) »
From p. 611 of the Rev. Leslie's, Clergy of Connor

Richard Stewart, c. 1705 - 1778;
Dean of Leighlin, 1777-78;
son of Capt. Robert Stewart of Coleraine;
died 1778, buried in St. Thomas, Dublin.

I came back to this wondering whether this Robert Stewart is the Robert Stewart of Curramoney who married Elsie McAuley.

Richard appears to have died unmarried.  His only known sibling was Mary Stewart who married William Walsh (from the Burke's Landed Gentry abstract you posted). 

Mary and William only seem to have one child before she died and he remarried in 1747.  That child was Rebecca who was administratrix to her uncle Richard Stewart in 1778 (possibly as his only living near relation?).  She married Thomas Usher in 1779.  He died between 1780 and 1789.  Rebecca herself died in 1789 or 1790 leaving a will:

Betham Will Abstract:
Rebecca Usher of the city of Dublin widow
1 April 1789 --- 24 Jul 1790
Husband Thomas Usher Esq decd.
Uncle Rev. Dr. Richard Stewart.
Husband's brother Rev Dr. Henry Usher.
Rebecca 4th dau of same.
Margaret Usher wife of sd Henry Usher.
Frances eldest dau of sd Henry Usher.
Sarah and Alice Richarda, 3rd and 5th daus of sd Henry Usher.
Thomas, John and Henry, sons of said Henry Usher.
Half brother William Walsh, second son of late father Rev. William Walsh.
Husband's brother John Ushers.
John and Cornelius, sons of same.


There's nothing there to help us on the Stewart side.  You'd have thought she might have mentioned her Stewart cousins if her mother was a sister of James Stewart (d. 1769).  Though I suppose it's possible she was somewhat out of touch with them - she in Dublin and they in Coleraine.

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #95 on: Monday 13 November 23 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Gilby, I would imagine that they are somehow related, but the how is an obstacle.  So far, I have been unable to find any additional information on the mysterious James or Robert.

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #96 on: Saturday 18 November 23 13:00 GMT (UK) »
I got myself a copy of the Clergy of Cashel, Emly and Leighlin (it was on sale and I'm aiming for a full set).  These details don't exactly match.

Clergy of Connor (1993):
STEWART, RICHARD c1705-1778
b c1705 London: ed by Mr Clare London; ent TCD 8 Sep 1722 aged 17 Schol 1726 BA 1727 MA 1730 BD and DD 1750.
V Knockmark (Meath) 1729-47 and V Tara 1735-47; holding these with V Belfast (Conn) 1736-47; R Louth (Arm) 1747-78; Dean of Leighlin 1777-78.
s of Capt Robert Stewart of Coleraine.
Died Feb 1778 aged 73 buried in St Thomas Dublin.

Clergy of Cashel, Emly and Leighlin (2012):
STEWART, RICHARD 1704/05-1778
b 1704 or 1705; ed by Mr Clare in London; ent TCF 8 Sep 1722 aged 17 TCD Sch 1726 BA 1727 MA 1730 BD & DD 1750.
V Knockmark 1729-46; V Tara ((Meath) 1734-51; V Belfast (Conn) 1736-47; V Louth (Arm) 1747-78; Dean of Leighlin 1777-78.
d of Richard, gentleman.
Died Feb 1778 aged 73.  Bur St Thomas's Ch Dublin.

Alumni Dublinensis:
STEWART, RICHARD, Pen (Mr Clare, London), Sept 8 1722, aged 17; s of Richard, Generosus; b. London.  Sco. 1726.  B.A. Vern 1727.  M.A. Aest. 1730.  B.D. and D. D. Aest. 1750.  [Dean of Leighlin.]


So was Richard son of Richard or son of Robert?  On the side of Richard is Alumni Dublinensis.  On the side for Robert is Burke's Landed Gentry.  Is there anything else on the Walsh family which refers to Mary Stewart's parentage?

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #97 on: Saturday 18 November 23 23:16 GMT (UK) »
I will see if I can find any information, but I would tend to go with the Alumni Dublinensis rather than Burke.  The Walsh family aside, we do know for sure that this family was related via marriage to both the Longworths and the Dawasons, so it is through doing some research on these families that I am hoping that some breakthrough will be made.

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #98 on: Sunday 19 November 23 13:49 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I agree on leaning towards Alumni Dublinensis.  And even if Richard and Mary's father was Robert, it may not be Robert Stewart of Curramoney.